Michelle365

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  If you felt/feel that you had/have good, close "friends" in the org, how did/does it feel to just give them up?

  by Crisis of Conscience in

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  this is my biggest dilema.

  although mentally i really feel i could walk away from the org right now, i still have genuine love for the people i have come to know over the years.

  i love people!.

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  Michelle365

  It's hard, hard hard. Once you get used to not seeing them often, the worse part for me was the realization that our friendship hadn't meant to them what it meant to me.

  These are people that I would have done anything for. We've been in each weddings, supported them through pregnancy/labor/childbirth, losing family members, etc. We were closely bonded. And now? It's like they never even knew me. No, hey how are you? How are the kids? I miss you, let's do lunch. NOTHING.

  It still hurts to realize that what we had meant nothing to them, but as the others have stated when you do move on and form other friendships, you start to appreciate what true friendship is. It's awesome to have someone love you and support you even IF you have differing religious/spiritual beliefs.
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  I had to hurt my kids this weekend... it sucks

  by Aussie Oz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been in a world of pain this weekend.. some of you know the ongoing battle i have had with my ex wife, an uber dub hypocrite, over seeing my kids more.

  3 weeks ago i managed to secure an agreement from her that provided my 13 yr old daughter friday night to sunday afternoons and for my 16 yr old son to have friday night to sat afternoon with the option to extend it to sunday if he so desires.

  this is each second weekend.. first due weekend visit she rearranged the days so that she was technically pre agreement start date.

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  Michelle365

  Oz, FWIW, I think you did the right thing as well. It's hard, believe me I know. I'm going through a lot of the same as you know. Have you read Divorce Poison? Here is a link to it on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Divorce-Poison-Protecting-Parent-Child-Vindictive/dp/0060934573/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272379687&sr=8-1

  It was reccomended to me and I've found it to be very helpful and I've only just started reading it. I know we've been taught to never say anything bad about the other parent and always take the high road and such. But this book explains that there are times when we need to put our foot down and ways to do it without bringing the kids in the middle.

  ((((HUGS)))) PM me anytime you need to vent!
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  How I obtained my personal files from Bethel

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it has taken me a long time, but i have finally put together an article outlining how i used the law to force bethel to send me my personal files.

  it is a very long article full of scans, so i have linked to it at http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/personal-files-privacy-act-1988.php.

  in brief, in 2006 i requested that bethel send me my files on the basis that the australian privacy act 1988 entitles people to receive a copy of any information a corporation holds about them.

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  Michelle365

  Michelle365 - From what I heard through the grape vine I had apparently disassociated myself by my actions

  This is a very unfair aspect of the whole process that being used more these days. Disassociation does not give you the opportunity to appeal and so can be even more unjust than d/f. When the WTS had issues with the Bulgarian government in order to obtain legal recognition they had to say having a blood transfusion is not a disfellowshipping offence. What they then did is made it a disassociating offence. That way the Bulgarian government thought they had done Witnesses a favour when in fact the situation became worse. It appears elders are using the same principle for apostates as well at times.

  ----Wow. I did not know that about Bulgaria. Thank you for taking the time to share that info!
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  I Heard A Person I Studied With Doesn't Go To Meetings Anymore!!!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it was said that i "brought this family into the truth".. i'm happy to report that this woman and her eldest son no longer go.

  i heard the other former bethelite children no longer want to converse with her.. i always knew at least, this woman would realize it wasn't the truth after all..

  yay!!!

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  Michelle365

  Sucks that her family is broken now too. I hate the WBTS.
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  How I obtained my personal files from Bethel

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it has taken me a long time, but i have finally put together an article outlining how i used the law to force bethel to send me my personal files.

  it is a very long article full of scans, so i have linked to it at http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/personal-files-privacy-act-1988.php.

  in brief, in 2006 i requested that bethel send me my files on the basis that the australian privacy act 1988 entitles people to receive a copy of any information a corporation holds about them.

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  Michelle365

  Maybe not BabaYaga, but what about all of us writing on the same day? What would they do with hundreds of file requests in one day? lol. I'd participate in that.
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  Birthday confusion! help!

  by highdose in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm ( yes moi) organising a birthday party for a 50 year old, but i need to know, at what point in the party is the cake supposed to be presented???.

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  i have no idea, and feel too embarrsed to ask a "worldly".

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  Michelle365

  Highdose-- it's your party! do as you want! there's no hard and fast rules! one more benefit of not being in a controling cult!!

  what else are you planning? what time seems most fitting?
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  For weeping: Are the Boston Bruins being helped by Satan?

  by keyser soze in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i find this particularly disturbing:.

  http://host.madison.com/sports/article_a8a86624-4e6f-59f9-a9c4-6cb9a3b0e216.html.

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  Michelle365

  Thanks. Just the title had me cracking up!
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  How I obtained my personal files from Bethel

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it has taken me a long time, but i have finally put together an article outlining how i used the law to force bethel to send me my personal files.

  it is a very long article full of scans, so i have linked to it at http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/personal-files-privacy-act-1988.php.

  in brief, in 2006 i requested that bethel send me my files on the basis that the australian privacy act 1988 entitles people to receive a copy of any information a corporation holds about them.

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  Michelle365

  Mad-- what I thought was even MORE amazing was that the branch wrote back and basically said there's nothing you can do. Makes me wonder what my elders said to Bethel because it sounds like they had even LESS information on me, so either the rules changed (SHOCKING) or my elders lied.

  Also how is your situation going? Have you written an update that I missed?
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  How I obtained my personal files from Bethel

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it has taken me a long time, but i have finally put together an article outlining how i used the law to force bethel to send me my personal files.

  it is a very long article full of scans, so i have linked to it at http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/personal-files-privacy-act-1988.php.

  in brief, in 2006 i requested that bethel send me my files on the basis that the australian privacy act 1988 entitles people to receive a copy of any information a corporation holds about them.

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  Michelle365

  Wow. That is awesome. Thank you so much for sharing all of that! I was recently "announced" but was never notified by the elder body, so couldn’t even exercise my right to an appeal. From what I heard through the grape vine I had apparently disassociated myself by my actions and therefore don't need to be notified and they don't have to offer me an opportunity to appeal. While I think an appeal would get denied I think it's CRAP logic what they used to DA me and never notify me. It's been six months and I still haven't gotten a letter from the elders advising me of my status. So I still talk to all the local JWs I see. lol. Your post really makes me want to see what they say about me especially since I was unaware of everything that went on. I'd appreciate if anyone has the corresponding USA laws or experiences.
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  I just put a bullet in the head of....

  by AK - Jeff in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ....my final jw relationship.. i did it.

  i killed the relationship.. my cousin rick and i had been inseparable as jw's.

  rick is five years my junior, and in many ways i tried to look out for him like a little brother when we were younger.. i have wrestled with an on again/ off again attempt to stay in touch with rick since i left jw's.

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  Michelle365

  ((((Jeff)))) Thanks for sharing. We all understand how hard it is.