I have long thought that if the Holy spirit is not part of God; then the spirit can have a power outage, if that happens, there is no God.
Mind you, from that point it was a simple jump to atheism.
sorry this is so long, but here is a series of e-mails i sent to the jehovah's witnesses united site and their response.
it has to do with the nwt inserting the word [other]in col 1:16,17 and phil 2:9. pick it apart as you may.
you may need an hour or two to read all of it.. (my original e-mail).
I have long thought that if the Holy spirit is not part of God; then the spirit can have a power outage, if that happens, there is no God.
Mind you, from that point it was a simple jump to atheism.
h2o and watchtower observer were the ones that helped me the most.
of course, jwd is the best discussion forum on the net.
This one and JWfacts.com. Where do our current members go for help?
i stumbled upon this website a few weeks ago due to the jw.org ridiculousness, since then i haven't been able to pull myself away.
the thoughts, feelings, and concerns i have had the past few years aren't just mine.
it's global.
Remember, the end of the world is not just around the corner. You can take as long as you need to. Welcome to the rest of your life! It may be hard but you can do it.
i tried to log on with a different computer than usual but i couldn't remember my password.. i attempted to use the "forget password" feature.. it said that it emailed me my password but i never received it.. i disabled my email's spam filter and tried several times but the password still hasn't arrived.. is anyone else having this problem?.
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Maybe you registered with a different email. Check junk mail/ spam folders.
Register with Lastpass and never forget. (It is VERY secure!)
what do you think??
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bump
... but most of my new (post jw) friends either don't know my birth date (if people don't specifically ask i won't tell them), or they are 2500 kilometers away in the netherlands... so all that's left to celebrate with me are my hubby, the two doggies, cat and my two rabbits... mixed feelings, i miss my friends and family around and haven't found friends in spain yet.
luckily our daughter will visit us the end of the month... and yesterday we've found a new rental house and we're moving into it next month already!
i'm thrilled and really looking forward to it, then we will finally be able to let all the rest of our belongings come to spain (2/3 of our stuff is stored in the netherlands).. so with this in mind, i'll just say 'happy birthday to me' and will enjoy my third birthday in espana .
its still your birthday in the US!
I hope you had a wonderful day
give it a few months, perhaps all jws will have to make hard decisions about blood based treatments.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-29084254.
the blood of patients who recover from ebola should be used to treat others, the world health organization has announced.. west africa is facing the largest ebola outbreak in history and more than 2,000 people have died.. a global group of experts have been meeting to assess the experimental therapies that could contain ebola.. the who also announced that ebola vaccines could be used on the frontline by november.. blood medicine.
people produce antibodies in the blood in an attempt to fight off an ebola infection.. in theory, those antibodies can be transferred from a survivor into a sick patient to give their immune system a boost.. however, large scale data on the effectiveness of the therapy is lacking.. studies on the 1995 outbreak of ebola in democratic republic of congo showed seven out of eight people survived after being given the therapy.. dr marie paule kieny, an assistant director general at who said: "we agreed that whole blood therapies may be used to treat ebola virus and all efforts must be invested to help infected countries to use them.. "there is a real opportunity that a blood-derived product can be used now and this can be very effective in terms of treating patients.".
Not to mention that white blood cells make up more than 50 percent of mothers milk. Forbidden as a major component of blood by the wittlesses.
as i mentioned in a recent thread, i've relatively new here.
have been lurking for a few weeks and just started posting.. one of the things i'm finding interesting about this site is how often someone posts a set of jw published material that contradicts each other.
for example the other day someone posted about lecithin.
The search function at the top of the page is good, its a google product and works! It rocks!
according to the bible, none... all 12 partook of the emblems.
jesus told them to partake even thought they were not anointed with holy spirit yet.
they were anointed at pentecost.... and judas was present too according to luke 22:21.. watchtower says that luke's chronological order is wrong.
Just one more reason that the book is not inspired. Wouldn't true inspiration prevent mistakes or conflicts like this?
the question, "why are you here?
" is simple enough, and your answer may be straightforward.
however, when i asked that of myself, i find that my answer is pretty complicated.
I come here because I have family still in, tiptoeing around subjects that I shouldn't have to.
I have been out so long that it isn't even the religion I grew up in. Sometimes I think the only thing that is unchanged is the disfellowshipping and the door to door. We need this forum to vent and learn why all the things that seemed "not right" were truly wrong. I am so glad it is still here.