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  Do you have any recording devices? Question at JW Judicial Committee. Can we use this weapon against them?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  what labels the watchtower judicial system as a completely kangaroo court is the secrecy in which they take place.

  i was asked this question by 5 elders who sat as judges over me over the charges get this "speaking against the organization" this was truly the most kangarooie of the kangaroo courts ever.

  when they first invited me to this meeting by 2 elder at my place of work i asked them what the charges were and was told speaking against the organization to which i said right the charges down on a piece of paper and sign it to which they refused.

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  I understand it has been done. Check youtube
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  Are Witnesses Allowed to Read Bible by itself

  by Brighid in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been away from the boards so long that i had to create a new account but recent events have brought me back - i've missed this place!

  anyway, i heard a former witness being interviewed the other day that said the witnesses were now being highly discouraged to read the bible by itself (without wt literature) on their own.

  this seems over the top even for the witnesses.

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  They will never admit it, but say you can't really know the meaning without the literature.

  Its all in what they don't say.

  Welcome back!
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  What is G-JOBBING for Bethelites?????????

  by JT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  had enough asked :.

  if you haven't already related to us the experiences at bethel that you told to your mom-in-law, (or even if you already have told us) could you tell us about what you told her.....and...what is "g-jobbing" (sorry for my naivity) .

  i didn't want to take away from sl post about his mother but i thought a little insight into the world of the bethelites would be interesting this am.

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  Bumping this to the top. Wonder if the newbies can give us some insight on more recent events at Bethel.
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  Say Something Jehovah's Witnessy........

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know there's no such word as "witnessy" but this can be a fun thread.

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  He was of the remnant.
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  Do you remember the 15 minute break at the Sun. meeting?

  by 3rdgen in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a poster on another thread reminded me of when there was a 15 min.

  break between the talk and the wt study on sundays.

  the break was supposed to be to allow jw's time to drive their bible studys home from the talk.

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  I remember the 15 minute breaks too. Heading to the restroom or walking (no running) around the hall. I think they stopped the charts in front by the stage in the early 60's.
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  CULT CULT CULT

  by minimus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have read many opinions about jw's being a cult.a dictionary describes cult as a system of religious beliefs and ritual .. some have viewed even major religions as a cult, such as the roman catholic church.based upon webster almost anybody or anything that is viewed as ritualistic could be said to be cultic.when someone tries to negate jehovah's witnesses by using.

  the "cult" word, i believe they are not seeing that many others could legitimately be regarded as a cult or at least "cultic".therefore the word loses alot of meaning.

  some have said that the watchtower is a cult because of the control factor.

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  Bringing this back to the top. We need to review this every once in a while, Simon is this in the best of section?
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  DECEPTIVE JW ELDERS - CASE#2

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  deceptive jw elders case#2 .

  appointing spiritually qualified men to take the lead and serve as elders and overseers has been a feature of watch tower congregational organization since about 1972. jws were told in talks at conventions, in literature, and finally in the two versions of the organization book that the biblical criteria is used when elders meet to consider some men for appointment as an elder.

  jws are also told that these qualified men are already appointed first by holy spirit, and then as the congregation is lead by that spirit to recognize them, the elders meeting is a confirmation of what god has done.

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  Bring this to the top again, I wonder how Amazing is doing.... He is a writer that I like to read over and over again here.
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  It sure is hard being your lord

  by Jehovah_God in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my login session .

  --------------------- let there be light!

  :let there be light!.

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  Just Bumping this cause I laughed out loud, all the questions weren't answered though.

  Jehovah should return.
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  MAJOR UN/WTS NEWS- UN LETTER & 1992 Press R...

  by hawkaw in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.

  and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .

  after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk

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  Time for another bump!
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  How do you feel about exJW's who resist our efforts to effect change?

  by nicolaou in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've met a few.

  i'm not talking about the jw who, whether df'd or not, falls off the radar and just gets on with living a normal life - good luck to them and may there be many more!.

  i mean the former jehovah's witness who is now enjoying all the benefits of a cult free life thanks to the efforts of many bloggers, posters and activists, but is critical of the efforts of someone close them to free more jws.

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  I've read more than once on this forum that if you aren't already questioning the "truth" you'll reject the information that we have here. I am not opposed to leaving tidbits of information or asking questions that might make someone research the old literature.

  I have a sister who is a true believer. Always gets exited about "new lite". Her kids are out and they have done a lot of anti-witnessing. She is happy to live her life vacation pioneering and still talks to us so I generally don't go there. She thinks I am sadly mistaken in my choices. I really hope she doesn't have any blood issues because she would be the martyr the WT likes to write about.