The Great Commission is the primary task of the Church. All believers and churches should be about worship, instruction, fellowship/relationships, evangelism, discipleship, service, etc. JWs have not cornered the market on spreading a message, just ruined door-to-door as an effective option.
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How To Properly Interpret The Watchtower Society
by metatron ini have a long history in this cult, at various levels.
a few of you, out there in cyberspace, share a similar experience - but many do not.. i'm going to tell you how to interpret things that happen in the organization, as well as what is written in the magazines.. it's not terribly difficult because they are so reactionary.
a fellow bethelite corrected me on this point when i accused them of being fascists.
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How To Properly Interpret The Watchtower Society
by metatron ini have a long history in this cult, at various levels.
a few of you, out there in cyberspace, share a similar experience - but many do not.. i'm going to tell you how to interpret things that happen in the organization, as well as what is written in the magazines.. it's not terribly difficult because they are so reactionary.
a fellow bethelite corrected me on this point when i accused them of being fascists.
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godrulz
Well, they do have a website.... what is CO? (carbon monoxide in my world)
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How To Properly Interpret The Watchtower Society
by metatron ini have a long history in this cult, at various levels.
a few of you, out there in cyberspace, share a similar experience - but many do not.. i'm going to tell you how to interpret things that happen in the organization, as well as what is written in the magazines.. it's not terribly difficult because they are so reactionary.
a fellow bethelite corrected me on this point when i accused them of being fascists.
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godrulz
Authoritarian structures give uniformity, but at great cost. True Christianity has true unity despite diversity without the control-freak issues of men. We who are led by the Spirit and have the Word do not need fallible, hypocritical humans micromanaging our lives and the life of the church. True elders are servant leaders with wisdom, not puppets of an organization trying to control people. In light of the plethora of information to bring the WT down, I am amazed people fall for it or remain in it.
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HOME FROM THE MEH-MORIAL....GETS WORSE EVERY YEAR.....
by Mary inwell, i walked in and got the love-bombing before i even made it past the foyer.
everyone's missed me, everyone's thrilled that i came, blah, blah, blah.
to be fair though, there were a few there that i do miss so it was nice to see them.
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godrulz
As a non-JW (ever), I asked why the number went up last year. It seems they would count everyone, even if they had a big cross or a pentagram on.
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I have never been a JW, but have studied their beliefs for 30 years. I am an elder in my church, so I connected with their elder (who had no good answers for my Bible questions). It was grievous and sad to watch the plate/cup go around with no one partaking. A few people were friendly and warm, but most did not come up to us (I was in jeans and my bro in Christ from church had earrings and a cross). I came with the Kingdom Interlinear and had good discussion with a few people after. I wished I could talk to the lady at the front (JW couple) who cried for part of the service (not sure why, but I think I could give some wisdom and comfort lacking in the place). Compared to my morning church experience, it was devoid of the presence and power of God (that is what happens when you reject the Deity of Christ and the personality of the Holy Spirit). The talk was rote with terrible proof texting out of context. Since it was a sham, I decided to let the emblems pass despite knowing I am born again. I went to pray and be a witness and am thankful for the grace of God that I am a biblical Christian, not a JW cultist.
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You need a messiah
by StopTheTears inyou might well ask that question, do we need a messiah?
yes, it would be logical to wonder whether a messiah would have any real effect on you.. .
some whose opinion you may respect would assure you that the answer is clear and unequivocal: you definitely do need a messiah, just as much as everyone else does.. .
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godrulz
Biblical omnipresence is not to be confused with pantheism/panentheism.
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You need a messiah
by StopTheTears inyou might well ask that question, do we need a messiah?
yes, it would be logical to wonder whether a messiah would have any real effect on you.. .
some whose opinion you may respect would assure you that the answer is clear and unequivocal: you definitely do need a messiah, just as much as everyone else does.. .
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godrulz
Having the Messiah will cost you everything. Unless you are perfect, God's standard, you are a sinner in need of a sinless Savior. The 10 Commandments, Moral Law, condemn all of us as sinners in thought, word, motive, deed.
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A WORD OF ADVICE TO ALL JWs
by I quit! inif you aren't annointed then why go to the memorial.
you can reject christ's offer in the comfort of your own home.
rent a movie and have some popcorn instead of attending another boring meeting..
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As a non-JW (never been), I went to the Memorial tonight to pray, be a witness, increase my burden for lost JWs, etc. I was grieved to see these precious people pass the plate and cup without touching it. They are being robbed by the WT Society. Do they do the same talk everywhere, or does the speaker prepare their own notes (I doubt it)? The verses out-of-context to support Anointed class, etc. made me cringe. A few JWs were friendly and I had fine dialogue with them. They really did not have answers to my biblical questions/concerns. Overall, compared to my Church with the presence and power of God, this was very boring and unbiblical. The two hymns were dead, the praying was sincere but rote, the 'discourse' was dry but not as bad as I expected. A few were friendly, but most were offish. Despite being born again, I decided to abstain since the whole thing was a sham (concerned about details of time, technique, etc., but missed the whole point of what Jesus and Paul taught about this). Overall, my brother in Christ and I may have been the only non-JWs showing up at a rented hall that covers an area of 60,000 people. The WT is in decline. The Easter presentations (drama, etc.) and services of most churches vastly outnumber this gathering. I did see an older teen bored and looking around, not participating (kid of JW couple). I saw another JW lady crying. I wish I could have spoken into her life (I assume it was for family that was not there or that she was not a JW and upset at her spouse being one?).
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You need a messiah
by StopTheTears inyou might well ask that question, do we need a messiah?
yes, it would be logical to wonder whether a messiah would have any real effect on you.. .
some whose opinion you may respect would assure you that the answer is clear and unequivocal: you definitely do need a messiah, just as much as everyone else does.. .
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godrulz
Who do you say Jesus is? Trusting a counterfeit Christ is worthless. Mormons, JWs, Muslims, Evangelicals, etc. believe in Jesus, but we have diametrically opposed, mutually exclusive views. The gospel includes truths about the Deity and resurrection of Christ. If we are going to call JWs or former JWs to Christ, they should understand that they are calling on Him as Jehovah God, not a creature or divine being of some sort. Otherwise, they can say they believe in Jesus (i.e. their Michael Archangel) and wrongly think they are saved when they are not.
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of the mags that get placed, how many get read?
by highdose inanother magazine question.
of the magazines that actualy get placed by the jw's.
once the door is closed, how many house holders do you think will actualy read them?
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This is reasonable considering the mounds of material that would accumulate. I see old, old copies of stuff around, so one would think this is a way to get merit points without throwing 'spiritual food' in the garbage. Can one count placing old magazines (and why are they keeping track to begin with?!)? There are also tax issues with JWs buying mags, collecting money, then turning the money back to WT (double dipping on WT part). Funds have fallen due to less literature, etc. Can everyone access the mags online (PDF?) for free? Can anyone get books or do they have to be delivered by a Witness (so they could refuse to do so for an apostate, etc.)? If I wanted a new, revised 'Reasoning' book, how would I get it (especially if they knew I would use it against them)? Do many use the Kingdom Interlinear (and do they still print it?). Will I live to see the day when the WT splinters and declines (cf. miracle of WWCOG/Armstrong move to orthodoxy)?