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  Question: What would it take to get the BORG'S tax exempt status REVOKED?

  by Black Man in

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  2. friends

  i've always wondered about this.

  i've always felt the main reason the borg made publishers do time slips/field service reports was to show that they are doing a community service to justify their tax exempt status.

  we all know about their money grabs with the kh build scams, their selling off millions of dollars in real estate, etc.

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  JeffT

  1) The only case law he cites involves a university not the church itself.

  2) The issue he's writing about (gay marriage) may mean that church officiants must sign marriage certificates for everybody or nobody. They can't pick and choose who they sign for. However, the church can refuse to recognize gay marriages if they want to and the government can not, under the Constitution, tell them otherwise.

  The constitution is clear that the government can not dictate what a church does within its walls, nor can it favor one church over another. In order to revoke the tax exempt status of the WTBS the IRS would have to revoke that status for all churches. In order to do that it probably would have to revoke it for all non-profits, otherwise its treated churches differently, which it can't do. See the 14th Amendment.
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  Question: What would it take to get the BORG'S tax exempt status REVOKED?

  by Black Man in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've always wondered about this.

  i've always felt the main reason the borg made publishers do time slips/field service reports was to show that they are doing a community service to justify their tax exempt status.

  we all know about their money grabs with the kh build scams, their selling off millions of dollars in real estate, etc.

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  JeffT

  JW's don't provide shelters for the homeless, soup kitchens for the hungry, relief for disaster victims, college scholarships for their youth, health care or facilities for the sick, and etc.

  They don't have to.

  WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO GET THE GOVERNMENT TO REVOKE THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS?

  A constitutional amendment.
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  What those terrible worldly people are doing

  by JeffT in

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  yesterday there was a horrific crash on a bridge here in seattle.

  a dukw (wwii amphibious truck) tourist cruise lost control and hit a charter bus full of exchange students head on.

  four dead and about a dozen seriously wounded, many more in less critical condition.yesterday, canlis restaurant, located near the scene and one of the most exclusive eateries in seattle, closed for the first time in its 65 year history and sent out its staff with food for the first responders.

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  JeffT

  Yesterday there was a horrific crash on a bridge here in Seattle. A DUKW (WWII amphibious truck) tourist cruise lost control and hit a charter bus full of exchange students head on. Four dead and about a dozen seriously wounded, many more in less critical condition.
  Yesterday, Canlis Restaurant, located near the scene and one of the most exclusive eateries in Seattle, closed for the first time in its 65 year history and sent out its staff with food for the first responders. Today I heard on the news that the Seattle Hotel Association is lining up free rooms for families of the exchange students coming in from all over the world. So far they have 14 families staying for free and have more rooms ready if needed.
  Nice to hear some good news about people.
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  Remember that Letter to Elders that asked them to privately inquire if any of the brothers were LAWYERS.....

  by Muddy Waters in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i remember a thread here somewhere where a letter to the body of elders was posted and elders were to read part of the letter asking who might have experience or training in video media, graphic design, etc.

  then on a separate page not to be read to the congregation was for elders to make discreet inquiries as to any who might have legal knowledge, experience or expertise.. well, in view of all this new kafluffle about branch closures, building work suspended, bethel layoffs, etc., it really makes me wonder now just what the heck is going on.

  has the gb been shafted by their own legal counsel or financial advisors?

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  JeffT

  BTW, they were looking for various professional types back in the seventies. An elder let that slip when I was around.
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  Remember that Letter to Elders that asked them to privately inquire if any of the brothers were LAWYERS.....

  by Muddy Waters in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i remember a thread here somewhere where a letter to the body of elders was posted and elders were to read part of the letter asking who might have experience or training in video media, graphic design, etc.

  then on a separate page not to be read to the congregation was for elders to make discreet inquiries as to any who might have legal knowledge, experience or expertise.. well, in view of all this new kafluffle about branch closures, building work suspended, bethel layoffs, etc., it really makes me wonder now just what the heck is going on.

  has the gb been shafted by their own legal counsel or financial advisors?

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  JeffT

  I heard that the WT lost half a billion in the stock market on Aug 24 of this year, but I haven't been able to confirm it.

  Overall the stock market lost 6.6% that day. Unless they had a gigantic investment that went under they still have 95% of whatever they had. If they lost 1/2 billion they still have 45 billion.
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  A simple explanation for the financial changes

  by JeffT in

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  as i've mentioned from time to time, i'm a retired accountant.

  i have tried many times to come up with some logical, sound business reason why the wtbs has made the big changes in its financial arrangements: taking the congregations savings, the monthly donations per congregation etc.

  i finally came up with the answer.. the leadership of the watchtower society is batshit crazy.

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  As I've mentioned from time to time, I'm a retired accountant. I have tried many times to come up with some logical, sound business reason why the WTBS has made the big changes in its financial arrangements: taking the congregations savings, the monthly donations per congregation etc.

  I finally came up with the answer.

  The leadership of the Watchtower Society is batshit crazy. We've all known that for some time when it comes to prophecy, wearing tight pants, whatever. Whey should their handling of money be any different? In other words there is no big (or little) plan, there is nothing to figure out because they don't know what they're doing.
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  How much would it take to bankrupt the Watchtower Organization?

  by Vetro in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  so how much would it take to bankrupt the watchtower organization, they're already having to bleed tens of millions to child abuse victims, how much more would it take to bring the society to it's knees, i know at one point they were going to sell off bethel.

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  JeffT

  I'm sure IRS has their sites set on this fraudulent corporation and is watching them very closely now that their reputation has been severely compromised due to all these lawsuits and what not

  I doubt it. The IRS is very reluctant to take on religious organizations. The Constitutional protections and long held legal opinion works against this.
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  Did anyone learn the truth from having their prayers answered by a knock at the door and then eventually leave the JWs?

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know of one person who had a difficult life, prayed for help, got the knock at the door, got baptized and eventually left the jws believing they were a cult.. has this happened to any of you?

  and if so, did you still feel your prayers were answered at that time?.

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  JeffT

  Does "informal witnessing" count? If so, that would be me. During a very bad period in my life I started talking about the Bible with a friend who had become a JW. This was in 1972-73 during the run up to 1975. I was baptized in 1973. I started getting disillusioned with the witnesses a few years later and eventually DA'd in 1989.
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  "Aid to Bible Understanding" pdf download link

  by Fernando in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  does anyone have a current link to download the "aid to bible understanding"?.

  thanks plenty.. fernando.

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  JeffT

  No download, but if you're looking for something specific I have the book and could scan an entry for you.
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  Today I got a review that left me scratching my head - what do you make of it?

  by Brock Talon in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  as a published author on amazon, i'm used to getting negative reviews from time to time.

  it goes with the territory and i'm ok with it.

  writing is an art form, so no art is liked by everyone.

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  JeffT

  I agree. I think the writer is certainly not a native English speaker which doesn't help. I wouldn't worry about it.

  PS Brock, I'm sending a PM.