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  The Governing Body have a lack of self awareness in this discussion

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  david splane's infamous pandemic "land of the living" speech will be shown at the midweek meeting in 2 weeks.. https://www.jw.org/en/library/jw-meeting-workbook/march-april-2025-mwb/life-and-ministry-meeting-schedule-for-march-3-9-2025/.

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  7. demonstrate trust in jehovah’s organization.

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  JeffT

  There is a very fundamental problem for the JW leadership buried in all of these types of debate. That is, having declared that they are God's messenger to mankind they can not respond to any question by saying "we don't know, every Christian will have to follow the dictates of their conscience." They have to have an answer.

  This problem shows itself over an over again in the history of the org. Flu vaccine, blood, blood fractions, military service, voting, standing for the national anthem, drinking... I could go on.

  Life for everybody would be much easier, but they have to have an answer.
  
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  Annual Report

  by St George of England in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the latest report is now available for download on our favourite website!.

  george.

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  JeffT

  It looks like they are no longer publishing the stat I like most: total hours in service. That number was undoubtedly had to explain, and maybe one of the reasons they stopped keeping track. The last number I remember worked out to something like 7,000 hours of field service to make one baptized publisher.
  
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  What Theme Song Should Be Played When You Walk Into a Room?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this could fun.

  what song should be played when you walk into a room that best describes you?

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  JeffT

  The Marilyn Manson version of "Sweet Dreams."
  
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  My story of becoming a circuit overseer after Kin Suen visited our congregation.

  by ExCircuitOverseer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is my story of becoming a missionary after having kin suen (pronounced “shin”) as my circuit overseer.

  my father wanted me to go to college, but since he wasn’t a witness, i knew he just didn’t understand how close we were to the end.

  i had actually become a circuit overseer!

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  Did Suen work a circuit in Eastern Washington/Northern Idaho? I seem to recall that name from when I was still in, and my recollection of this person was that he was a kind and caring man.
  
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  My story of becoming a circuit overseer after Kin Suen visited our congregation.

  by ExCircuitOverseer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is my story of becoming a missionary after having kin suen (pronounced “shin”) as my circuit overseer.

  my father wanted me to go to college, but since he wasn’t a witness, i knew he just didn’t understand how close we were to the end.

  i had actually become a circuit overseer!

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  JeffT

  I left in the eighties, after fifteen years in. I too, was sucked in as a young (early twenties) person. And yes, I was influenced by a bunch of people who were older that I was and should have known better. I believed that the end was soon. Fortunately I managed to break free before I wasted more time.
  
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  JW vs. Christian Message To the World - The Kingdom of God, or Reconciliation with God?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after stuydying jw's for over half a century, i haved concluded the following: .

  old light / new light is a primary doctrine of jehovah’s witneses.

  when they abandon on old prophecy or change a doctrine, they characterize this as “old light”.

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  JW's have no understanding of Grace. They are trying to work out their salvation, but unfortunately they can't sell enough Watchtowers to do that. I know somebody's going to point out that they are backing away from selling literature; consider it a public admission their religion doesn't work.
  
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  Would You Get A Cease and Desist Letter From the WT if You...

  by NotFormer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ...put a christmas wreath that featured the jw.org logo on your door?

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  Yes, you would get a cease and desist order. The government has a searchable website of trademarked logos, and the Borg logo is listed.
  
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  Fifty years ago today

  by JeffT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  october 6th 1974 debbie and i tied the knot.

  the elder that performed the ceremony managed to personalize it a bit for us.

  seems like something worked.

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  JeffT

  October 6th 1974 Debbie and I tied the knot. The elder that performed the ceremony managed to personalize it a bit for us. Seems like something worked.
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  Do you recognize this?

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  thinking sometimes about my youth days and the stories my grandfather told me about our jw congregation.

  do you recognize that your congregation was full of somehowe strange folks, very low educated, poor and simple?.

  the po was an elder with some distance, with some personality acting intelligent and following the rules strict.. there was always a kind of scandal.

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  LHG, Truthlover and Blondie

  Your stories sound a lot like mine. I was baptized in 1974. I had just graduated from college, only to discover that nobody wanted somebody with a degree in English. So I became a JW. The congregation was pleasant and mostly decent people.

  There were a few oddballs and bad apples. One elder was removed for beating his wife. One was verbally abusive too everybody around him (except the circuit overseer), I don't know how he kept his position.

  In 1982, against the counsel from the elders I went back to school for a year and studied accounting. One of the best decisions I ever made. We stopped going to meetings in 1987, and disassociated ourselves a year later.
  
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  The fading of a well known American religion. Could this happen someday to Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  new york times 9/5/24.

  " there are only two shakers left.

  they've still got utopia in their sites.. "by jordan kisner.

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  I don't think so. The shakers were more liberal in some ways, in particular the role of women( they regarded men and women as equals). However, they were flat out opposed to sex. And never had the numbers that JW's have.