Posts by JeffT

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Caitlyn Jenner has cognitive Dissonance

by sherrie11 in

i have just finished watching the latest episode of i am cait!

lol yes i watch it!!!

they were discussing politics.

JeffT

macys: people are allowed to not like Jenner, her driving record, her political opinions or her constant reality-show self promotion and saying so is not "hate".

True. And I disagree with her self-promotion and stupid reality show (for the record, I dislike all "reality" shows). Her politics are her business and I don't know beans about her driving record. But in my mind saying her expressed opinions must be the result of cognitive dissonance reminds me too much of being called mentally diseased. Disagree to your heart's content, but leave out the personal attacks.

I also think there is too much emphasis in our public climate on the idea that all people with shared skin color or genitalia should think in a particular way.

Edited to add: my daughter self-describes as "gender fluid" or some such. She's married to a transgender queer woman. Both are welcome members of my family.

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Lady drives car into Kingdom Hall

by Sugar Shane in

right smack into (what looks like) the front entry!.

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-13/78yo-female-driver-crash-jehovahs-witnesses-church/7243268.

this was in australia, but the khs i've seen (in the us) are designed so that you'd have to almost intentionally want to ram a building to cause this kind of damage.

JeffT

After many years in property management I've lost track of the number of times I've seen cars hit buildings. Older drivers are frequently, but not always, the driver involved. My favorite was the adult newly arrived immigrant who literally drove her car into the DMV office when returning from failing her driving exam. Turned out she didn't have insurance after stating on the forms that she did.

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What would we all do if the watchtower collapsed tomorrow ?

by stan livedeath in

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i would probably collapse laughing.

JeffT

What Outlaw said. If the Watchtower collapsed the people who really need some one to lead them would just go find somebody else, probably elders, CO's and the like who would still claim divine appointment. That and I would expect to see a lot of suicides, especially among older folks who realized they wasted their lives.

I don't think it would be a pretty thing.

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genuine english guy seeking jw lady

by english_gentleman in

hi, i believe that a lady is put on earth to satisfy the needs of her partner and respect his views in all matters.. i realize some here may consider that old fashioned and not based on sexual equality.. yet a lady and man are not created equal because the lady gives birth and the man must sire many children.

if you are a lady under 30 and keen to meet me, willing to cook and breed, then please message me here.

please do not contact me if you disagree with my views, we can agree to differ.

JeffT

When she gets there, remember to check all the seams carefully. She may not stay inflated if you don't.

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Add your Stupid title of Winess books that did not come true

by Witness 007 in

"millions now living will never die.

" -1922. sorry rutherford but they did!.

"god's kingdom of 1000 years has aproached!

JeffT

"Revelation, It's Grand Climax is at Hand" I can think of all kinds of inappropriate jokes.

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THE LINGERING SHADOW OF '75

by Terry in

none of you are old enough to have been there, i suspect.

i had been in prison two years as a jw conscientious objector when the exciting news about 1975 spread like wildfire.i was paroled from prison in 1969 and immediately began pioneering.

the pressures began mounting throughout the organization.

JeffT

I converted and baptized in 1973. 1975 was all anybody talked about. After the failure quite a number seized on the idea about the gap between Adam's creation and Eve's.

After that, "we are not serving for a date" became a common expression. This was usually delivered with an attitude of "we're better Witnesses than the weak ones who are leaving." Later, everybody treated the whole thing like it never happened.

For a good academic treatise on how this kind of denial works, read "When Prophecy Fails" by Festinger, Riecken, and Schachter. They followed a UFO cult through a failed prophecy expecting to find that people left when it failed. Instead they doubled down on thinking that it was soon, and they'd passed some kind of test. It's an interesting read.

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Jehovah’s Witnesses likely to get $220M+ for Watchtower building according to NY Post

by vivalavida in

just got this from my son: .

http://nypost.com/2016/02/23/jehovahs-witnesses-selling-watchtower-building-for-220m/.

somehow i really thought they would be talking about much more money.

JeffT

According to the spies, those that submitted bids include East End Capital, Westbrook Partners, Vornado Realty Trust, Tishman Speyer Properties, L&L Holding and Savanna.

Having worked in the industry, I'm taking this info with a large dose of salt. The only people who could know this are insiders. An agent that puts out info like this about his client is in for a major lawsuit. I highly doubt there is a Johnny the Bethelite who is privy to this. I suspect some broker is putting behind this in an effort to get a better deal for his client.

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This is Just getting Ridiculous and out of hand with the Borg

by MrsR-Awaken in

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saw this on reddit it was posted by user morgan_sparlock .

to me honestly this would of been prohibited 10 years ago, but now every dub is obsessed with this website, it's everywhere even a damn iphone cover... ooh they don't approve of idolatry ooh no they don't accept cross veneration thats bullshit to me!!!

its getting to a point that they are venerating this website (company logo) it's their version of the cross.

JeffT

I just googled "Dee Dee's Creations" I don't think there is any connection with JW's, except maybe separating them from their money. The website features birthday and Christmas items among other things. I suspect somebody noticed she was seeing "JW.Org" all over the place and ran with it.

Serves the JW's right if their too dumb to know they're being taken for a ride. Back in the day the Society would have told the R&F to stay away from this stuff no matter who made it. Now, I'm not so sure.

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Masons, Tomas Jefferson, Jesus, ancient Egyptian religion, Russell

by Crazyguy in

i believe the masons we're anti christs, tomas jefferson i read even wrote a bible leaving out anything to do with jesus because these masons new the christ was just a retelling of older god's, some of these gods being from the egyptian religion.. russell was said to be a mason and it's interesting that he traveled to egypt to confirm some of his beliefs.

then after he returns home his religion becomes more like that of the ancient egyptian religion then probably any other christians sect.

like the egyptians the jws believe in a two class system one class goes to heaven to be with god, just like the pharaoh's and the other rank and file class goes to a paradise called the field of reeds.

JeffT

So is there anyway to connect the dots to see if Russell a Mason, and learns Egyptian religion, is an ati Christ etc.?

No. At a minimum you need to factor in the man on the grassy knoll that shot JFK, and the fact that CERN is a stargate leading to another dimension, and that Denver International airport is a portal to hell. It isn't clear yet if chemtrails are linked to any of this.

Seriously, this stuff is a waste of time. There is no way to pull a bunch of random factoids out of the air and connect them together into anything like a rational explanation of how the world works.

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When Did Higher Education Become Taboo?

by Wild_Thing in

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i have been reading about the early history of russelites/jws and in the beginning, it seems the organization was formed and headed by quite a few educated people.

lawyers, doctors, businessman.

you could buy voting rights within the organization for $1000, which by today's standard would be somewhere between $15,000 and $20,000, something most of us do not have on hand, unless you are highly educated and/or wealthy.

JeffT

I can't find exact numbers just now, but I believe that college education was rare until about the 1950's. According to Wikipedia, in the early twentieth century there were only about 160,000 college students in the US. That changed post World War II with the GI Bill. Now there are about 18,000,000. In other words I don't think it was an issue for the WTBS until then.

Financially, they shot themselves in the foot with their position on it. It's hard to squeeze money out of folks with low income jobs. Contrast that to the Mormons, who encourage higher education and good jobs. The LDS is rolling in money.