I think the UN Declaration is a goal not a legal document. It isn't actually enforceable, and may not apply to private groups. I know the US constitution does not. Trying to get a court to go after the WTBS on the basis of this document is probably an uphill battle at best.
Posts by JeffT
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7Witnesses and the UN Declaration of Human Rights.
by gonzobear ini'm researching a piece on the witnesses, as an ex born in witness now writer, and would really appreciate any thoughts.. as most of you all know the witnesses rely heavily on article 20 of the above act - everyone has the right to peaceful assembly and association.
but they also contravene several other articles of the act with their policy of disfellowshipping, causing mental distress to people who leave, they split up the family - a protected unit- and don't allow members to vote or to partake in national service, things protected by the act.
here's the link to the act, read it though and see if you can spot things witnesses aren't allowed to do that every human should be allowed to do freely - .
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I think I figured out their strategy with all the creepy videos
by JeffT ini came in during all the hype over 1975. the predictions about that date were the real driver behind all their activity.
since then, they haven't had a good goad to prod the sheep.
they seem to be smart enough not to try another date.. i think they plan to use fear instead.
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JeffT
I came in during all the hype over 1975. The predictions about that date were the real driver behind all their activity. Since then, they haven't had a good goad to prod the sheep. They seem to be smart enough not to try another date.
I think they plan to use fear instead. They won't say WHEN this will happen, but you better be ready because storm troops will come to round you up if you don't give us all your spare time and pocket change. It may send some running when they see the cult for what it is, but many will respond the way the want, i.e. they'll all follow orders.
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Jehovahs witnesses investing in stocks involving pornography, alcohol distribution and military war weapons??
by Ghiagirl inwhy is this the first time i have come across this?
my husband showed me a video about how the jws invest in stock like cinemax, disney, companies producing war weapons, alcohol and much much more.
if this is true, there are tax records to show for it right?
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I'm an accountant. The guy in that video is misinformed. I've tried to contact him but he doesn't seem to want to listen to me. -
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Jehovah Witness vs Jehovah's Witness
by Simon inbeing brought up as a jehovah's witness means you are so used to the term that you rarely stop to think about it.. one thing i've noticed is that people unfamiliar with the religion will say "jehovah witness" (no 's) instead which i always found a bit grating.. but watching the us election, something struck me.
people are often referred to as "trump supporters", not "trump's supporters" and so on.
thinking about other things, people would say they were "united fan's", not "united's fans" and so on.. it seems weird that a group would refer to themselves as though it was someone else talking about them (in the 3rd person, if i have that right).. what do you think?
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JeffT
The grammar is irrelevant.
Officially they are "Jehovah's Witnesses" as in "The Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses" or "The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses." It you are speaking of just one person he is a "Jehovah's Witness" or "One of Jehovah's Witnesses."
Anybody using "Jehovah Witness" in any context is speaking incorrectly, which is rather humorous when they use it themselves. You'd think one should be able to get the name of of his own religion right.
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Quick question...
by Vidiot in...why the f**k do i so often see banner ads for "jehovah's witness dating" here?
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KEDI healthcare
by COLLINS ini need information about kedi healthcare.
i know a little detail about this network marketing.
i need experiences of those who have worked in this network before because i am about joining this network marketing business.
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JeffT
The vast majority are scams.
Simon, this comment implies there is at least one that isn't a scam. I've never heard or seen such a beast. Do you have an example?
As an accountant, I've looked at lots of them. I've never seen one that isn't designed to fleece the sheep and transfer the proceeds to the people at the top.
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KEDI healthcare
by COLLINS ini need information about kedi healthcare.
i know a little detail about this network marketing.
i need experiences of those who have worked in this network before because i am about joining this network marketing business.
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JeffT
Run away now. It's a multi-level marketing company based in Nigeria. They sell bottles of who knows what that will cure everything from allergies to cancer. -
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What scriptures support this:
by jdlvdb inwhat scriptures support the story that the "truth" will be lost till "the time of the end" and that just a random would "rediscover" it?
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JeffT
I think they use the parable of the wheat and the weeds, as well.
In the Four Major Cults, Anthony Hoekema says this teaching is a common factor in all cults.
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The two paths of exJWs
by Simon init's easy to think of exjws as being a single amorphous group but the more i think about it, the more i believe that there are two distinct sub-groups and wonder if you agree.. there are those who believe and those who don't.
i know that seems obvious but let's break it down a bit more.
there are those who don't and never believed and some who are looking for a religion to match their beliefs.. i used to think this split would be between born-ins and converts but of course it's possible for born-ins to be believers although i suspect that many, like with other faiths, do so simply because they have never experienced anything else or made a conscious choice.
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JeffT
Something about this thread nagged at me all day, and I finally figured it out. Not all of us go through all the stages of our lives at the same speed. Some may leave the Witnesses and immediately free themselves of all religion. Others may take longer, perhaps exploring other churches or religions before leaving it all behind. Some may never get there.
Fifteen years ago, I was still exploring other religions, trying to find one that fit me. For many years I attended an independent church and liked it. It was certainly more free and open than JW's. But things changed and I grew tired of it. Now I don't attend any church and don't feel a need to. I have my own spiritual beliefs, but feel no need to tell anybody else about them.
At the end of the day I don't like putting people in boxes. We're all individuals with all sorts of things going on to make us unique.
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Availability Crisis of Conscience.
by Ben131895 inmost of us are desperately waiting for the availability of a legal crisis of conscience.
deborah dykstra provided us with two updates.
on december 12, 2015 there was a clear statement about the copyright which stopped all illegal activity in spreading electronic versions & prints.. finally, she promised a new update by or before may 6.. so far no new update.
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JeffT
Putting it up on amazon.com for Kindle, how hard can that be,
Have you tried doing it?