Posts by JeffT

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Why Are You Here?

by Believer in

i'm wondering why believers remain members of this forum which is clearly hostile to believers.

as one member said, nonbelievers pounce on any semblance of belief like piranhas on prey.

as former jws we should have had our fill of judgmental know-it-alls, but here we are.

JeffT

When you ask if some one is a believer, I have to ask: Believer in what?

Belief is a very big subject. Do I believe in a God? Yes, although I prefer to keep my opinions to myself these days. Do I believe the Earth is flat? No. Do I believe the Watchtower? No. Do I believe in the scientific method? Yes.

So what are we talking about?

I think you need to define your question before we can talk about it. I've been out of the Watchtower since 1988, the one thing I've learned is that the world is rarely black and white, a good part of the time it isn't gray either, there's a whole rainbow out there.

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JWR usernames list

by StarryNight9 in

jw
friends

i created this thread so that jwr members can list their old jwr username with their username for whatever site they've moved to.

i apologize if this has already been created somewhere else.. jwr = starrynight.

jwd = starrynight9.

JeffT

Jeff T here

Jeff Thomas on JWR and just about anywhere else.

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Simon: What happens when you can no longer support this site?

by StephaneLaliberte in

hey simon, .

the recent closure of jwr made me realize that this site may not be eternal as well.

a great deal of people attach a lot of importance to xjw communities and yours is the best.

JeffT

Thank you Simon. I've been hanging around here for something like fifteen years. I really appreciate the place.

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Jehovah's Witness Recovery is no more...

by TimeBandit in

jw
friends

i just tried to go to the site and there is a goodbye message.

i was a member there since 2010. i was really surprised.

i had just started posting there again after being away for a while.

JeffT

For all the JWR refugees, you may recognize my picture. I've been here much longer than I was on JWR. I don't like the way JWR shut down, but its done now. I'm gearing up to put a novella on my blog, I hope to announce that soon.

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Why is Youtube blocking this video?

by Newly Enlightened in

i don't understand.

i grabbed the wreck clip from an individual's youtube channel, then recorded it off of my pc with my camera and youtube is still giving us a copyright notice.. https://vimeo.com/170364809.

JeffT

Probably because it's copyrighted material, it belongs to the owner of the You Tube channel.

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Who's getting the money donated for building and remodeling?

by oppostate in

look at these two photos from africa.. .

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who's getting the money donated for kh building and remodeling?.

JeffT

Where did those videos come from? They look more like rental marketing materials to me, that is I think they may be done by the new owners.

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The Greatest Intellectual Scam of All-Time: French Postmodernism

by cofty in

sbf you annoyed me enough to deserve this.. gad saad's comments on the nonsensical gibberish of jacques derrida, michel foucault, and jacques lacan.

charlatanism of the highest order.

.... the first quote from derrida starts as 2:50.

JeffT

If I want a dose of gibberish I can't think of a better place to get it than an internet argument about French Postmodernism.

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Would you care to explain this discrepancy between your doctrine and the Holy Scripture?

by Pribeagul in

citing from https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/what-is-the-holy-spirit/ :"the holy spirit is not a personby referring to god’s spirit as his “hands,” “fingers,” or “breath,” the bible shows that the holy spirit is not a person.

(exodus 15:8, 10) a craftsman’s hands cannot function independent of his mind and body; likewise, god’s holy spirit operates only as he directs it.

(luke 11:13) the bible also compares god’s spirit to water and associates it with such things as faith and knowledge.

JeffT

What prompted the Jehovah's Witnesses which was founded less than 150 years ago to disregard the entire history of Christianity which respected the Holy Spirit as part of the Trinity?

Charles Taze Russell, who started the religion, thought he was smarter than everybody else. Probably everybody here will tell you he wasn't.

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Witnesses and the UN Declaration of Human Rights.

by gonzobear in

i'm researching a piece on the witnesses, as an ex born in witness now writer, and would really appreciate any thoughts.. as most of you all know the witnesses rely heavily on article 20 of the above act - everyone has the right to peaceful assembly and association.

but they also contravene several other articles of the act with their policy of disfellowshipping, causing mental distress to people who leave, they split up the family - a protected unit- and don't allow members to vote or to partake in national service, things protected by the act.

here's the link to the act, read it though and see if you can spot things witnesses aren't allowed to do that every human should be allowed to do freely - .

JeffT

I think the UN Declaration is a goal not a legal document. It isn't actually enforceable, and may not apply to private groups. I know the US constitution does not. Trying to get a court to go after the WTBS on the basis of this document is probably an uphill battle at best.

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I think I figured out their strategy with all the creepy videos

by JeffT in

i came in during all the hype over 1975. the predictions about that date were the real driver behind all their activity.

since then, they haven't had a good goad to prod the sheep.

they seem to be smart enough not to try another date.. i think they plan to use fear instead.

JeffT

I came in during all the hype over 1975. The predictions about that date were the real driver behind all their activity. Since then, they haven't had a good goad to prod the sheep. They seem to be smart enough not to try another date.

I think they plan to use fear instead. They won't say WHEN this will happen, but you better be ready because storm troops will come to round you up if you don't give us all your spare time and pocket change. It may send some running when they see the cult for what it is, but many will respond the way the want, i.e. they'll all follow orders.