My wife and I stopped going to meetings in 1988 and sent our DA letter in 1989. The information was there for anybody to find, if they looked. Like BluesBrother I spent hours in the public library (which had a wealth of information) looking over my shoulder terrified some elder would catch me there. In retrospect, if one had seen me, the obvious question would have been "What are you doing in this part of the library?" After we left, we were part of an XJW support group, perhaps a dozen members from around the Seattle area.
Posts by JeffT
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14April 30, 1993
by pistolpete inthis year was actually “the beginning of the last days for the watchtower.
before this year, there were very few that questioned the watchtower.
they were truly god’s only channel.
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Why Is The Press Suddenly Exposing The Biden Family?
by minimus inthe new york post published how hunter biden was involved with many criminal activities.
they showed how big daddy biden was well aware of what was going on.
the post got called out for this “ non story “.
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Good news/behavior doesn't sell airtime.
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Nurses are unwilling to take the COVID-19 Vaccine
by adjusted knowledge ini work at two separate hospitals and most of the rns i work with have stated they won't take the vaccine.
i've read a report that 1/3 of rns will refuse the vaccine.
for those in other countries do you see this being an issue or is it more an american phenomenon?.
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Keep in mind, these vaccines didn't sprout all on their own like mushrooms. The basic science has been at work since the 1990's. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine#History
COVID-19 just jumped working on this to a higher priority, and it was all out in public as opposed to hidden away in a lab somewhere. Turning it into a political football didn't help.
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Publisher's Record Cards
by Faded4good inokay, i haven't been to a meeting in over 17 years and i don't live anywhere near the place i grew up.
i have had minimal contact with my jw family, essentially just occasional phone conversations.
i think they could easily guess that i'm inactive but they pretend not to know and they've never shunned me.
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The last time I was in a KH was in 1988. If they contact me now and threaten to DF me I'm going to make about a hundred copies of the letter and send it to everybody I know, and all the local news outlets, post it here and Facebook, and anywhere else I can think of. Hey look, I left this cult over thirty years ago and they're still hounding me. Wouldn't that be a fine witness for Jehovah?
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Fear > Facts (WT Study Article 12/6/2020
by Jofi_Wofo ina doozy in today's study article brought me to post here for the first time in a while.
once again, watchtower leadership is doing its level best to make their adherents as fearful of inconvenient facts as they, themselves, are.. "like timothy, we must also discern the danger of false information spread by apostates.
(1 tim.
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For example, they might try to spread false stories about our brothers or raise doubts about Jehovah’s organization. Such misinformation could undermine our faith.
Faith in what? God or a bunch of men?
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The problem with Capitalism!---Billionaires
by pistolpete inas imperfect and flawed capitalism is, it has worked better than other forms of economic and political systems-so far.
it’s very simple in “theory.” capitalism is an economic and-or, political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
in other words, keep government out of it as much as possible.
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you have a bunch of people with just under $190k in the bank, barely enough to buy a nice house
I live a few miles from Amazon's headquarters. $190,000 won't buy you a shack around here. I'm pretty sure it won't even buy an undeveloped lot (undeveloped = no water, no sewer, no electricity). The same thing is happening around San Francisco. A while back the Seattle city council raised the minimum wage to $15 an hour. Many people (myself included) thought it would hurt small businesses, especially restaurants. I recently saw an interview with a restaurant owner, he said it hasn't effected him at all - he has to pay about $18 an hour just to get somebody to show up.
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2020-December, Announcements And Reminders/Audio-Video Guidelines!
by Atlantis in2020-december--announcements and reminders.2020-december--audio/video guidelines for those giving public talks via videoconference.zipped folder.https://www.filemail.com/d/rjoukferwsimwqoatlantis!
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If I'm reading that first letter right, they're loosening field service requirements again. There's no need to determine if a published qualifies to report in 15 minute increments, nor ask how many minutes they put in. This means you could put in a minute and tell the elders you "participated." Congratulations, your a publisher.
I've thought for awhile that when the pandemic is under control they're going to have a hard time getting the toothpaste back in the tube. If they continue this model post Covid we're going to see a big increase in publishers, and the R&F may heave a sigh of relief. That could solve some problems for them.
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How much do Elders actually get along with each other?
by Davros ini was reading in the shepherding book that elders should “ cultivate and maintain friendships with one another.”, and thought to myself “bulls$it!” i remember that most of the elders in my old congregation were nothing but nasty asses.
i know it may vary from congregation to congregation, but do elders generally get along with each other behind closed doors in elders meetings?
or, are they often in conflict with each other?
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Jeezus, sounds like fucking high school.
High School student are more mature than this. Sounds like Junior High school to me.
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2020-Articles Of Association--Bylaws--Notice Of Special Meeting! (as of 2020-11-25)
by Atlantis in2020--articles of association and bylaws--3 pages.. .
2020--notice of special meeting in december--8 pages.
if you are a jw read carefully before you sign.. .
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Unless you work with it, you can't appreciated how complex and convoluted U S tax law is. As I mentioned, I'm an accountant. I worked in commercial and multi-family residential (apartments) real estate. When tax time rolled around I got the financials cleaned up and turned them over to a CPA firm that specialized in tax returns. This is extra complex for nonprofits. With something the size of the Watchtower it would take years to unwind. If nothing else you can't just sell it all. In all probability they'd file bankruptcy and the court would appoint a receiver to manage the liquidation.
I doubt very much that the WT is ready to distribute all of its Billions in assets to another non-profit organization. They will always adapt and restructure TO STAY IN BUSINESS. None of the GB can run away with the monies. There are strict laws in the United States that govern non profit organization. (They are just Restructuring as they have always done since the beginning. This might include selling tons of KHs)
They can't sell it to themselves under a new name, either. That is one of the specifics of tax law regarding non-profits.
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2020-Articles Of Association--Bylaws--Notice Of Special Meeting! (as of 2020-11-25)
by Atlantis in2020--articles of association and bylaws--3 pages.. .
2020--notice of special meeting in december--8 pages.
if you are a jw read carefully before you sign.. .
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John, can you shoot me a link to your comment? I couldn't find it.