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  Is Watch Tower still the most popular?

  by Ardian in

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  2. experiences

  as per report generated by ttt (tingtopten.com) watchtower is the most popular magazine in the world.

  is it still the most popular magazine among readers?.

  source: https://tingtopten.com/2020/01/top-10-most-popular-magazines-in-the-world/.

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  JeffT

  see my comment in your other thread.
  
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  No inetrest in Watchtower & Awake?

  by Ardian in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower and awake have been listed as the most popular magazines.the figures are astonishing.

  i am not sure whether it is based on reality or not.. source: https://tingtopten.com/2020/01/top-10-most-popular-magazines-in-the-world/.

  i have seen the link on many social media networks.

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  It's based on bogus accounting. Unlike the other magazines on that list the Watchtower and Awake are not sold directly to the public. They are sold to the JW's who then dump a few every month in the preaching work. The rest end up in recycling bins. However all of them are counted as "sold" since the R&F paid for them. I have no idea what COVID has done to their numbers.
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  The Life of Pioneers...

  by The Bethelite in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i don't know why but sometimes like to check up my old/self righteous friend, gary kennedy from bethel on face book....he is a pioneer in ecuador.

  yes and just like most pioneers he likes to brag on his selfless life style.

  he is serving the lord my sitting at home and writing out thousands of letters long hand all day long to count his time.

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  The new workstation for JW pioneers:

  
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  The Cancel Culture Is Alive And Well

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  if you don’t support certain ideas or beliefs, you may find yourself on the losing end in business, money matters, and community.

  curt schilling, a former red sox player who is conservative today reported how his insurance company suddenly dropped him even though he was an excellent consumer with them because of his “ views”.

  he was marked by those in charge and evidently was told by the rep he knew that they didn’t like his political views.

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  What will CNN, MSNBC etc have to fill their time with once Trump is no longer President?

  I've been wondering about that. I think its entirely possible they'll just keep talking about Donald Trump.
  
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  Hysteria & Final Thoughts

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. social
  2. current

  every republican president ever elected starting with reagan generated hysteria in the news media.

  they belittled, cajoled, ridiculed, mocked and resisted the highest elected leader in the land in an attempt to overturn the will of the people.

  reagan.

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  No one in Japan ever imagined, something like this was even possible!

  Most of the United States (including the scientific community) didn't know it was possible.

  No one could have predicted what the last year brought us. I think the Democrats are going to overreach, too far, too fast, and this time they will be the ones taken by surprise.
  
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  QUITTING QUIETLY here is the Canadian version of the document

  by gone for good in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a while back, i suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and pimos to preempt the elders' interference by quitting quietly first , before a fade or a confrontation.

  here is the document .

  https://1drv.ms/w/s!avoitfxyvyqghq3gbmkhfyqp_jqp?e=8bttg1.

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  JeffT

  I'm free of this religion because thirty-three years ago I decided to stop participating in it. Almost a year after we stopped going to the Kingdom Hall my wife and I wrote a DA letter. We wrote the letter to make sure they knew we decided to join and voluntarily and we left voluntarily. During that year we voted in the 1988 election, celebrated Halloween and Christmas, our oldest son's birthday, my wife's birthday, I grew a beard (not allowed at the time) and generally did whatever the hell we wanted. We wrote the letter when it became obvious the elders were coming after us and accepted the fact that family and friends were going to shun us.

  That is the point here: there is no get out of JW jail free card. If you stop participating, at some point they will shun you. I'm concerned that some one who doesn't know any better will see this form you've cooked up and think they've found an easier softer way. Such a path doesn't exist. Freedom is a struggle, and there will be hardships. We do a disservice by leading some to believe it won't be hard.
  
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  QUITTING QUIETLY here is the Canadian version of the document

  by gone for good in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a while back, i suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and pimos to preempt the elders' interference by quitting quietly first , before a fade or a confrontation.

  here is the document .

  https://1drv.ms/w/s!avoitfxyvyqghq3gbmkhfyqp_jqp?e=8bttg1.

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  There's been something nagging at the back of my mind while reading this thread, I finally figured it out tonight. Go to Youtube and do a search for "Sovereign Citizen." You will be treated to hours of video of knuckleheads armed with some paperwork they downloaded off the internet arguing with cops about how they don't need driver's licenses, insurance etc because those laws don't apply to them. I think we have the same thing going on here. The only reason they don't end the same way is because the elders can't arrest you.
  
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  QUITTING QUIETLY here is the Canadian version of the document

  by gone for good in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a while back, i suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and pimos to preempt the elders' interference by quitting quietly first , before a fade or a confrontation.

  here is the document .

  https://1drv.ms/w/s!avoitfxyvyqghq3gbmkhfyqp_jqp?e=8bttg1.

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  Strange that you can picture a comedy sketch, but you can't possibly picture a dignified, irrefutable way to extricate yourself quietly and quickly from the authority of a family destroying c--t.

  I liked Simon's SNL skit. What I can't picture is why I need a piece of paper full of pseudo-legal babbling to stop participating in something I no longer wish to participate in. I just told them I wasn't interested anymore. It was dignified and irrefutable.
  
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  QUITTING QUIETLY here is the Canadian version of the document

  by gone for good in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a while back, i suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and pimos to preempt the elders' interference by quitting quietly first , before a fade or a confrontation.

  here is the document .

  https://1drv.ms/w/s!avoitfxyvyqghq3gbmkhfyqp_jqp?e=8bttg1.

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  JeffT

  Just out of curiosity what happens when you get in a dust up with an elder pull out this document and tell him he has no authority over you. His reaction is to pull out his own copy and say that you have no authority over him and he's exercising his freedom of religion to show you the door?
  
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  QUITTING QUIETLY here is the Canadian version of the document

  by gone for good in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a while back, i suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and pimos to preempt the elders' interference by quitting quietly first , before a fade or a confrontation.

  here is the document .

  https://1drv.ms/w/s!avoitfxyvyqghq3gbmkhfyqp_jqp?e=8bttg1.

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  JeffT

  There is a fundamental flaw in all of these discussions about civil rights declarations etc: they cut both ways. Yes, you have the right to practice your religion as you see fit. So do the elders.

  I'm with Simon, if you want to stop being a JW just stop. My wife and I wrote a DA letter about six months after we quit going to the hall. We said we'd sue them if they slandered us. We sent all kinds of documents outlining what we thought was wrong with the organization.

  If I had it to do over again I'd just tell them I joined voluntarily and I was leaving voluntarily. Or maybe not say anything at all and let them figure it out.