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  Did you ever buy into 1975?

  by tornapart in

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  for those of you that can remember.... did you really believe that armageddon was going to come in 1975?

  i was a child of the 60s, in my teens in the 70s and can honestly say that i never bought into it.

  i saw brothers and sisters selling their homes and moving into rented property.

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  I graduated from college in the summer of 1973, and was baptized a few months later, having started a study that spring. The "end is soon" rhetoric mostly fit into an already held world view. We were at the tag end of Vietnam, Watergate was becoming The Big Story, the mid-east was coming apart, the US and USSR had enough bombs to blow up the world, people were sick and starving. It was logical (or so it seemed at the time) that God was going to put everything right. I passed up a chance to go to grad school, and temporary pioneered. I also met a nice JW girl (also a convert) and got married in the fall of 1974.

  By 1977 I knew something was wrong, but stayed in for the social contacts and my wife's family (they were the ones that converted her). After moving to a new congregation we lost interest entirely and haven't been in a Kingdom Hall since 1988. We're still married.
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  Thinking about the end of the Watchtower

  by JeffT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first, a word about the watchtower’s financial position: nobody (outside the watchtower organization) knows.

  the wtbs is not required to disclose its finances, and doesn’t.

  we can speculate, but that is all we are doing.

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  First, a word about the Watchtower’s financial position: nobody (outside the Watchtower organization) knows. The WTBS is not required to disclose its finances, and doesn’t. We can speculate, but that is all we are doing.

  Secondly, and more importantly, I think the XJW community needs to consider what the demise of the WTBS might mean for Jehovah’s Witnesses. For generations now, they have been trained to look to the authority of the Governing Body for any decision they may need to make. As we all know, they aren’t allowed to think for themselves on the most basic matters. Where will these people turn when they’re way of life is kicked out from under them?

  I think that should something major happen to the Society we will see a wave of depression, anxiety and suicide the likes of which we’ve never seen. I expect that most Witnesses will eventually (or sooner) find somebody to tell them what to do. It would not be difficult for somebody (perhaps even the current governing body) to set up a new religion that looks very much like the old one. We’ll still be fighting the same enemy, he’ll just go by a different name.
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  The Gentile Times Reconsidered Recommendation

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've been trying to get my hands on this book and read a review that i thought was interesting.

  an anonymous person reviewed the book on barnes and noble and said .

  "jonsson book deals with babylonian tablets.

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  I own the book. He's working from generally accepted translations, which is fine when working on ancient manuscripts. How many Watchtower writers speak/read Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic? If knowing the original language is the standard why listen to JW's?
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  ESPN reassigns commentator Robert Lee over 'name coincidence'

  by freemindfade in

  1. social
  2. current

  wish this was fake news, but its not.

  for everyone thinking whats the big deal with marxists anarchists forcibly pulling down old offensive statues, this is the slippery slope we are walking onto... fools... please read 1984 people.. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41022954.

  espn has removed a sports commentator from covering an american football game in charlottesville because he has the same name as civil war general robert e lee.. stash: /intesoft-inc.appspot.com/post/c782436dc86c4489b3948663ffc029db.html

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  The Asian Student Association (or whatever they have there) should take over the football stadium in protest.
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  "Smash The Old World"

  by cofty in

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  2. current

  during mao's cultural revolution images of the past were destroyed by the red guard.

  temples and churches were looted and religious statues destroyed.. this image was taken by li zhengshen at the jile temple in august 1966. the sign on the wall translates as "smash the old world".. will the left never learn?.

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  It doesn't take much research to learn that conservatives opposed nearly every single freedom that we are lucky enough to take for granted these days

  It doesn't take much to look around and see that extremist leftists oppose nearly every freedom we take for granted. The current state of college campuses is a prime example. The specifics of the rules would be different, but the left would still have us live in a kingdom hall where unapproved thought is not allowed. And you get to try to defend yourself from the mob when an accusation is let loose; without benefit of a trial, witnesses, or legal protection. The absolutes are in play, if you're not with them, you are opposed. Looks just like being accused of apostate leanings to me.

  Additional note: while we're erasing the past, Robert Byrd (D) was a member of the KKK. Let's take his name off of everything its on. That would be approximately every public structure in West Virginia.

  Second note: Jefferson Davis was a Democrat.

  
  
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  White supremacy is an ideology of peace

  by OneEyedJoe in

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  i'm tired of hearing these constant attacks on white supremacists after the events in charlottesville.

  why are moderate white supremacists being lumped in together and sharing the blame for the actions of one reprehensible man that misinterpreted the ideals of white supremacy and became violent?

  clearly the motivation of such attacks on white supremacists is nothing other than racism.

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  Any idea of Superiority is Bad and will bring the Wrong Results.

  Inferior people of the world unite! Destiny calls.

  
  
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  What would happen if everyone who ever lived came back? - Video on Youtube

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  very interesting video showing what would happen if everyone who ever died came back...tldr: 90% would die (again) within two months because of famine.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-s34gz3xwgtherefore: "paradise" is just impossible..

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  By my calculations that give everybody about .3 acres (1800 people per square mile) or about 750 per square kilometer. And that is ALL land, good land, crummy land, swamp, desert, mountain glaciers etc.
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  Need some research help

  by JeffT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i'm working on another (fictional) book project and i need some historical help.

  i came into the borg in 1973, just as they were starting the new elder arrangement.

  i know that before that there was a presiding overseer who (as i understand it) ran the show.

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  Lois, this character is female. The fact that she's JW is is peripheral to the plot. She, my lead character, and another young man discover they have supernatural powers. When her parents get wind of this they think she's demonized. I just want to make sure I get the JW related details right.

  The story takes place near Seattle.
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  Need some research help

  by JeffT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i'm working on another (fictional) book project and i need some historical help.

  i came into the borg in 1973, just as they were starting the new elder arrangement.

  i know that before that there was a presiding overseer who (as i understand it) ran the show.

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  So I'm working on another (fictional) book project and I need some historical help. I came into the Borg in 1973, just as they were starting the new elder arrangement. I know that before that there was a Presiding Overseer who (as I understand it) ran the show. What other positions were there, and how did things run generally? My book is a young adult fantasy set in the late sixties, one character is a JW and I like to get things right. Any insight or sources you can share will be much appreciated.
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  The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

  but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

  i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

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  Since I got out I've found it funny that the WTBS claims that God made sure the Bible was handed down to us accurately, therefore we can rely on it. Except that he was apparently unable to keep those nasty Catholic monks from deleting his own name. If that is so all fired important, why didn't he make sure it stayed there?