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  QUITTING QUIETLY here is the Canadian version of the document

  by gone for good in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a while back, i suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and pimos to preempt the elders' interference by quitting quietly first , before a fade or a confrontation.

  here is the document .

  https://1drv.ms/w/s!avoitfxyvyqghq3gbmkhfyqp_jqp?e=8bttg1.

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  Just out of curiosity what happens when you get in a dust up with an elder pull out this document and tell him he has no authority over you. His reaction is to pull out his own copy and say that you have no authority over him and he's exercising his freedom of religion to show you the door?
  
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  QUITTING QUIETLY here is the Canadian version of the document

  by gone for good in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a while back, i suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and pimos to preempt the elders' interference by quitting quietly first , before a fade or a confrontation.

  here is the document .

  https://1drv.ms/w/s!avoitfxyvyqghq3gbmkhfyqp_jqp?e=8bttg1.

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  JeffT

  There is a fundamental flaw in all of these discussions about civil rights declarations etc: they cut both ways. Yes, you have the right to practice your religion as you see fit. So do the elders.

  I'm with Simon, if you want to stop being a JW just stop. My wife and I wrote a DA letter about six months after we quit going to the hall. We said we'd sue them if they slandered us. We sent all kinds of documents outlining what we thought was wrong with the organization.

  If I had it to do over again I'd just tell them I joined voluntarily and I was leaving voluntarily. Or maybe not say anything at all and let them figure it out.
  
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  QUITTING QUIETLY here is the Canadian version of the document

  by gone for good in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a while back, i suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and pimos to preempt the elders' interference by quitting quietly first , before a fade or a confrontation.

  here is the document .

  https://1drv.ms/w/s!avoitfxyvyqghq3gbmkhfyqp_jqp?e=8bttg1.

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  JeffT

  If you're sending that to JW's where did you find one smart enough to understand what that says?
  
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  Human imperfection, church policy or hypocrisy?? Watchtower vs BMG

  by lssjr in

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  2. beliefs

  this new lawsuit continues to compound undeniable evidence that jehovah’s witnesses is keener in monopolizing "the truth" or making "kingdom assets" an exclusive right, so that they can interests of their "king, jesus christ".

  it is clearly evident also the they are willing to fight for frivolous and materialistic rights they believe they are entitled to, but when it comes to child sexual abuse issues and their role, they certainly love to twist and hide behind law, to escape blame and responsibility.. below is the full text from https://avoidjw.org/en/news/watch-tower-bmg-music/.

  the court documents are also available for download in the aforementioned link.. further commentary can also be found on watchtower sues bmg rights management over aled jones song.

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  Mick that was the first thing I thought of when I saw the subject line.
  
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  Human imperfection, church policy or hypocrisy?? Watchtower vs BMG

  by lssjr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this new lawsuit continues to compound undeniable evidence that jehovah’s witnesses is keener in monopolizing "the truth" or making "kingdom assets" an exclusive right, so that they can interests of their "king, jesus christ".

  it is clearly evident also the they are willing to fight for frivolous and materialistic rights they believe they are entitled to, but when it comes to child sexual abuse issues and their role, they certainly love to twist and hide behind law, to escape blame and responsibility.. below is the full text from https://avoidjw.org/en/news/watch-tower-bmg-music/.

  the court documents are also available for download in the aforementioned link.. further commentary can also be found on watchtower sues bmg rights management over aled jones song.

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  What Joe said. As a writer I have some knowledge of copyright law. Music copyright is a bit more complicated, but not beyond understanding. Copyright exists to protect the creators of intellectual property, BMG knows this (or they are stunningly incompetent.

  I know this is an unpopular opinion on this board, but the WTBS is well within its rights on this, and risks losing those rights if it doesn't defend them.
  
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  First Day of Winter

  by frozen2018 in

  1. jw
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  here's a drone video shot not far from my house (not taken by me) to brighten the day:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbn_be38fhy.

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  We live in a semi-rural area, we've had bobcats in the yard a couple of times. The second time it tried to grab one of my granddaughter's ducks for lunch. Fortunately we saw it and scared it off.
  
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  Has anyone contested a Will and WON????

  by cha ching in

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  2. scandals

  my jw mom just died last week, about 6 1/2 months after my non jw dad died (dehydration, starvation, imo) i was the executor of that will.

  before a month had passed of his death, my dad & mom's will was changed.

  i didn't know until she died.

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  A question you need to ask yourself: is this worth fighting about? If it isn't enough money to pay a lawyer the correct thing to do is walk away. Remember that all of your mother's debts need to be paid, before any money can be disbursed.
  
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  Has anyone contested a Will and WON????

  by cha ching in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  my jw mom just died last week, about 6 1/2 months after my non jw dad died (dehydration, starvation, imo) i was the executor of that will.

  before a month had passed of his death, my dad & mom's will was changed.

  i didn't know until she died.

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  Is this will witnessed and notarized? If not, or if you can prove your mother wasn't competent, it may be invalid. I repeat the advice given above: see an attorney. If you are in Washington State (or even if you aren't, but you are in the US) I may be able to help you find one. PM me if you want, I'm not a lawyer, but I am a retired accountant. I have some experience in these things.
  
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  April 30, 1993

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this year was actually “the beginning of the last days for the watchtower.

  before this year, there were very few that questioned the watchtower.

  they were truly god’s only channel.

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  My wife and I stopped going to meetings in 1988 and sent our DA letter in 1989. The information was there for anybody to find, if they looked. Like BluesBrother I spent hours in the public library (which had a wealth of information) looking over my shoulder terrified some elder would catch me there. In retrospect, if one had seen me, the obvious question would have been "What are you doing in this part of the library?" After we left, we were part of an XJW support group, perhaps a dozen members from around the Seattle area.
  
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  Why Is The Press Suddenly Exposing The Biden Family?

  by minimus in

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  the new york post published how hunter biden was involved with many criminal activities.

  they showed how big daddy biden was well aware of what was going on.

  the post got called out for this “ non story “.

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  Good news/behavior doesn't sell airtime.