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  Why the Lord's Prayer and Not Stephen's?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  other n t prayers:.

  the lord's prayer.. .

  the tax collector's prayer.. .

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  JeffT

  Unless its changed, JW's are opposed to "canned" prayers even if they're in the Bible. I think reciting the Lord's prayer at the start of meeting would get you yanked off the stage and hauled in front of a committee.
  
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  Can we stick to topics that we came that we came to this forum in the first place?

  by James Jack in

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  2. experiences

  i don’t care about politics, books you are reading, movies and tv programs you’re watching, etc..

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  I have often thought about starting a series of posts on practical information for living a good life after the JWs. Maybe topics like: moving out of your parents' house, finding a job, finding an apartment, buying a house, renovating a house, opening a checking/savings account, planning for retirement, investments, etc. Depending on your age leaving the JWs any of those topics might possibly be appropriate.

  Go for it. JW's don't learn anything about life in the real world, meaning there are lots of XJW's that might be struggling to learn how to handle those items you mention, and many more. I'll be happy to bore anybody that asks with my financial advice.
  
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  U.K. Nurse Vaccinated With Covid Shot Has Covid Weeks After Getting Vac!

  by minimus in

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  someone i know from england is a nurse.

  she told me there was an outbreak at the hospital and she got the virus after being vaccinated.

  she said she was told it probably would have been much worse for her had she not gotten vaccinated.

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  Why are they not even mentioning it as possibly a good idea to take? (esp. you are known to be deficient)

  Because vitamin D is toxic if you take too much. The correct solution to this is get tested and see if you're deficient. If you aren't taking Vitamin D is a bad idea. I would be interested in seeing a study, if the percent of people with COVID and vitamin D deficiency is the same as the percent of everybody with vitamin D deficiency it doesn't mean anything.
  
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  If only someone had kicked my a$$.. (This is post is not for theists)

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i think back on the 30+ years of bs as well as my fading almost a decade and even now being low key in person to hopefully save my nieces from the wt.

  i'm a wreck in some ways.

  i'm other days i'm stable however when it comes to theism i depart quickly and with anger!

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  If I could go back in time kick some one's ass, it would be my own.
  

  I started studying in 1972, I was sucked in by the whole 1975 thing. At the time I was a university student (at Washington State University), I graduated in 1973 and was baptized a few months later. During this entire time I was studying I had access to the university, which at the time had something over 2,000,000 books in its catalog. I never once went there and looked up Jehovah's Witnesses.

  As an JW I had many discussions with householders about religion. I only listened to their arguments long enough to plan my next comment.
  

  The reason the vast majority of non-witnesses don't talk to witnesses about religion is because they have better things to do.
  
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  Anyone notice how when some of us older ones were in the cult.......

  by mickbobcat in

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  2. beliefs

  when i was a kid in the late sixties the type of books we would study was very intense compared to the bull shit pablum that they put out today?

  i mean the finished mystery and others now its these stupid books that don't dive deep into the beliefs.

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  I was 22 when I became a JW in 1973. I had been on a spiritual search for some time, I was in a bad place in my life. The Watchtower seemed to have all the information I needed. The literature at the time at least FELT impressive. It also agreed with my world view at the time (anti-war, anti-government, etc). Had my introduction to the WTBS been through today's dumbed down books and magazines I would have kept looking.
  
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  1984 movie, Similar to WT land.

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

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  wow, if you have the time, watch this movie of orwell's 1984. it was made in the '50s, so its a little hokey, but wow the similarities are scary.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mj08hncica.

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  Language. George Orwell clearly understood that if you gave new meanings to old words, or created new words with special meanings, then you could control how people thought. One of the characters explicitly states that when language is fully under the control of the party it will literally be impossible to frame an argument against it. Words such as "freedom" will have lost all meaning. The WTBS was well on its way to realizing this when the internet came along. I think it may be impossible to do that now.
  
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  Is Watch Tower still the most popular?

  by Ardian in

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  2. experiences

  as per report generated by ttt (tingtopten.com) watchtower is the most popular magazine in the world.

  is it still the most popular magazine among readers?.

  source: https://tingtopten.com/2020/01/top-10-most-popular-magazines-in-the-world/.

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  see my comment in your other thread.
  
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  No inetrest in Watchtower & Awake?

  by Ardian in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower and awake have been listed as the most popular magazines.the figures are astonishing.

  i am not sure whether it is based on reality or not.. source: https://tingtopten.com/2020/01/top-10-most-popular-magazines-in-the-world/.

  i have seen the link on many social media networks.

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  It's based on bogus accounting. Unlike the other magazines on that list the Watchtower and Awake are not sold directly to the public. They are sold to the JW's who then dump a few every month in the preaching work. The rest end up in recycling bins. However all of them are counted as "sold" since the R&F paid for them. I have no idea what COVID has done to their numbers.
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  The Life of Pioneers...

  by The Bethelite in

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  i don't know why but sometimes like to check up my old/self righteous friend, gary kennedy from bethel on face book....he is a pioneer in ecuador.

  yes and just like most pioneers he likes to brag on his selfless life style.

  he is serving the lord my sitting at home and writing out thousands of letters long hand all day long to count his time.

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  The new workstation for JW pioneers:

  
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  The Cancel Culture Is Alive And Well

  by minimus in

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  if you don’t support certain ideas or beliefs, you may find yourself on the losing end in business, money matters, and community.

  curt schilling, a former red sox player who is conservative today reported how his insurance company suddenly dropped him even though he was an excellent consumer with them because of his “ views”.

  he was marked by those in charge and evidently was told by the rep he knew that they didn’t like his political views.

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  What will CNN, MSNBC etc have to fill their time with once Trump is no longer President?

  I've been wondering about that. I think its entirely possible they'll just keep talking about Donald Trump.