I agree with you. I always did think that way, even when an active dub. All of my dub friends did too. My attitude always was that Jesus fed the crowd before he preached to them. I didnt actually know anyone who said it wasnt important to look after the material needs of people. The problem is with being a dub though, you are so over stretched that you arent able to help in any other way than preach. I always wanted to though and it is something I intend to do now I have more time for myself.
carpediem
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Community Service - why looked down on when it was so encouraged by Jesus
by insearchoftruth inmy wife yesterday was talking about how useless it really is to feed the hungry and provide cold weather shelters since the problem will not go away until the 'new system of things'.. i know that at one time jesus does state that there will be poor always, but a key aspect of his ministry on earth was helping the less fortunate.
how does the wts justify the discouragement of its rank and file from performing acts of community service, when the 'greatest man who ever lived' was so active in it?.
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carpediem
Yes I do have some good memories. I met some very nice individuals, some of whom have left like me and I am again in contact with. Some I hope will leave at some point, when I will be waiting with open arms and a bottle of champagne!
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Since Leaving The "Truth" Is Your Life Better?
by minimus inyou are told that if you "go back to the vomit" of the world, you will be miserable.. is your life better or worse since you've removed yourself from the organization's hold?.
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carpediem
In many ways yes. I have so much more time. My husband is still in though, so although I now read more of what I want, see more of who I want and watch more of the sort of tv I like, I can only do it when he isnt around. This will all change when I da of course. I have just started making new friends on the 'outside' and until I do I can feel pretty lonely at times, but I know the friends I do make wont disown me if I tell them I dont share their beliefs or religion. Completely refreshing or what!
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Attending my mum's JW wedding
by iMARX inso i have to go to my mum's jw wedding in 2 weeks.
it's not in a kh but there's still going to be about 40 jws there.
apparently it's "widely-known" that i'm gay and some jws have even told my mum that it's not wise to invite me because it will make other people (jws) feel uncomfortable.
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carpediem
hmmmm well iMarx I wish I could be there with you. Go and have a good time with Noah and when you have a secret toast think of me!
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How easy is it to pretend to be a spirtual JW?
by highdose infor arguements sake, lets say you walk into a hall where you are not known and introduce yourself as one of them, how easy would it be to pass yourself off as a fully paid up devout dub?.
i reckon i could do it even now, pull out a doudy dress, look misarble, say all the right things and thanks to jwn i'm in the know about all the most recent developments.
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carpediem
Well I pretended for a long time in my own cong and nobody guessed, so fooling strangers would be a doddle.
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Think Of a Jehovah's Witness---What Pops Up In Your Head?
by minimus inwhat connection do you make?.
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carpediem
Prisoners. That is what sadly comes to my mind.
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How "worldly" people REALLY view Jehovah's Witnesses
by HappyGuy inwhen you are a jw it is pounded into your head that the "world" hates you, wants to kill you, runs around saying all kinds of horrible things about you, and would take away all your rights, freedom of religion, etc, if it could.. when i first left the wtbts organization i told "worldly" friends and family about being a jehovah's witness.
not one of them said anything disrespectful, rude, insulting, or even unkind in any way.
i could just as well have said "i'm a baptist", or "i like comic books".. a few people who know that the wtbts is a cult were concerned over my emotional health, but that was out of a sense of friendship.. i have never met anyone who on hearing the phrase "jehovah's witness" got upset or said "those xxxxx".
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carpediem
Worldtraveller - what I said wasnt inaccurate. I was/am shunned. I was told I was an apostate for joining the witnesses and that as I had 'forsaken Jesus' then my friends could no longer talk to me. They havent since I have been a witness. It is nothing to do with witnessing to them. When I first joined jws I tried to, but was bombarded with stuff from them - books, magazines, tracts and goodness knows what else. Then when that didnt work they shunned me. I live in a small village where my old church friends walk past me and dont talk, just like the witnesses will at some point in the future. I dont think it would have been a problem had I just left. It was specifically bec I became a dub.
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I am helping at a Carol Concert tomorrow..............
by carpediem inbloody hell, i feel so nervous.
i am half expecting satan himself to be sat there on the stage waiting for me.
what the heck did those witnesses do to me...........................
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carpediem
Bloody hell, I feel so nervous. I am half expecting Satan himself to be sat there on the stage waiting for me. What the heck did those witnesses do to me..........................
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did you go on the ministry in bad weather?
by highdose ini can remember being in the freezing snow and so cold my fingers were numb, i desparatly wanted someone to invite me in, just to warm up even, but no one did.. i got soaked on countless occasions having been dropped off in some remote corner of the territory, trying to find shelter in a thunderstorm.. i got burnt to a crisp in just half an hour in a uk heatwave, of course no one was at home... they were all far more sensible and had gone to the beach!.
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carpediem
Yeah, pouring rain where I could hardly hold literature before it was soaked through. One man said 'you are bonkers you are' and slammed the door. There were lots of people home that day though!
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How "worldly" people REALLY view Jehovah's Witnesses
by HappyGuy inwhen you are a jw it is pounded into your head that the "world" hates you, wants to kill you, runs around saying all kinds of horrible things about you, and would take away all your rights, freedom of religion, etc, if it could.. when i first left the wtbts organization i told "worldly" friends and family about being a jehovah's witness.
not one of them said anything disrespectful, rude, insulting, or even unkind in any way.
i could just as well have said "i'm a baptist", or "i like comic books".. a few people who know that the wtbts is a cult were concerned over my emotional health, but that was out of a sense of friendship.. i have never met anyone who on hearing the phrase "jehovah's witness" got upset or said "those xxxxx".
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carpediem
Well my experience was a bit different. I was raised going to church. Went all my life until I became a witness. I then had many well meaning friends trying to show me the error of my ways. Eventually when they realised I wasnt going to change my mind, they became really nasty, and they shunned me. So there you go. Not much different from the dubs after all. Mind you, the difference now being, they would probably welcome me back with open arms.