Sabastious I know what you mean, but I am not going back or being persuaded. They have a formal letter, I have told everyone I am not a witness anymore and for me that means the end. Let your yes mean yes and all that!!
carpediem
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Today I seized the day...and disassociated myself
by carpediem inand i feel good!
it was a long time coming.
i stopped going to meetings june 09. the reason i left it so long is because my husband is still in and for this reason i see witnesses from time to time.
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Depression in the Org.
by ssn587 init never seems to be brought up in jah's so wonderful org.
but depression seems rampant, i can name 7-10 people right now on antidepreswsant drugs.
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carpediem
You are absolutely right. I was depressed all the time I was a witness. I didn't realise it until I left and since I left 16 months ago my depression has lifted and I feel so much better. No surprise though - what a depressing existence it is - I felt like a hamster in a wheel - on the go constantly but going nowhere.
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Today I seized the day...and disassociated myself
by carpediem inand i feel good!
it was a long time coming.
i stopped going to meetings june 09. the reason i left it so long is because my husband is still in and for this reason i see witnesses from time to time.
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carpediem
Yeah by email to an elder. and I have text all my friends to let them know I had da'd. No turning back and don't want to.
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Today I seized the day...and disassociated myself
by carpediem inand i feel good!
it was a long time coming.
i stopped going to meetings june 09. the reason i left it so long is because my husband is still in and for this reason i see witnesses from time to time.
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carpediem
and I feel good! It was a long time coming. I stopped going to meetings June 09. The reason I left it so long is because my husband is still in and for this reason I see witnesses from time to time. I couldn't face the humiliation of the shunning. But I got to a stage of needing closure, and closure I have. The door is shut and I am glad.
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How do Jehovah's Witnesses Explain This Fossil Record?
by sabastious inaccording to jws, evolution is false.
so how do they explain these human-like fossils?.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/human_evolution.
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carpediem
They put their fingers in their ears, cover their eyes and shout over and over again 'cant hear you, cant hear you'.
I had a conversation with a jw recently (a friend whilst I was still in). I was talking about cave paintings that were 32 thousand years old that had been carbon dated. She said I was gullible for believing the theory of imperfect men instead of listening to Jehovah. I said 'who taught you about Jehovah? Oh yeah, imperfect men wasnt it'!
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Whats the weirdest thing a JW ever said to you?
by chukky 594 ini remember a 'sister' coming up to me and telling me off for being on the atkins diet, as it was satanic and designed by satan.. chukky.
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carpediem
When I was studying the person that taught me said 'when we go on the ministry the angels are with us with clip boards noting those householders who refuse to hear the truth'.
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Straight from the September Watchtower. How can they print this without blushing?
by nicolaou inthe watchtower september 1, 2010 11. .
the dangers of being deceived (page 10/11).
to deceive, says one dictionary, means to cause to accept as true or valid what is false or invalid.
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carpediem
Well, I don't know whether that makes me want to laugh or cry. How stunningly apt for jws, from the mouths of jws.
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If the bible is god's handbook for man, why is it such gobbledegook?
by Aussie Oz ini don't mean the basic moral code of behavior (that many non biblical lands also just happen to have) that people use to model their lives, but the 'deeper' stuff.... assuming that god has had his divine plan for vindicating himself etc ever since he figured that adam may screw up, and he needed to let faithful mankind know the 'plan' and how to survive it all.... why is the important stuff all gobbledegook?.
the time frame, prophecy, signs and so on are all so obscure that even the cleverest theologians can't understand it or agree on it.
the 'truth' is so muddled and juggled up that every understanding can be logically challenged with an equally challengable one.
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carpediem
Exactly! An excellent read is "Who wrote the Bible" by Richard Elliot Friedman. Sorry if I have repeated what someone else has said - don't have time to read through all the posts.
IMO, if an intelligent God existed then he would have communicated his existence, intentions, the meaning of life etc etc., in a clear and concise way that left no doubt whatsoever. The fact that he is hasn't shows that he either doesn't exist, or doesn't care.
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Quitting quickly is the best strategy if you can do it
by gubberningbody ini've found the following:.
1. the phone calls stop after about 9 months, then they just trickle.. 2. you get an opportunity to mentally detox.
this is not possible unless you quit drinking the koolaid.. 3. you know you're going to leave, and guess what?
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carpediem
I agree with all you say. I left suddenly, whilst still a reg pioneer. that was at the beginning of last summer. The thought of leaving and all my worries were much worse than the reality.
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Childhood Baptism
by torn in two son intoday, one of the few jw friends that i'm close to got baptized.. i always knew he was a little more into it than i was, but i thought that with high school coming for him (i'm a year older than he is), maybe it would open his eyes a little, and he would see the world differently.
with little contact with him because of seperate schools for the past year, i didn't find out the news until just before our convention started.
when he told me, i had this singular moment of panic and deflation, but i gave the guy a big hug and squeaked out a "congratulations" knowing he's two hours from shooting himself in the foot.
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carpediem
Baptising children is an issue that makes my blood boil. Your friend has my sympathy, and more of it should he ever decide to leave and be shunned by all those who cheered him on as a minor!