did you know that page 99 of "pay attention...." (the elders' manual) states that a person who has not associated for a while is basically exempt from discipline?
essentially if you attend a judicial hearing or respond to the elders you are admitting accountability to the "christian congregation.
" therefore, if you walk away from the congregation and simply ignore the elders for long enough and exert no influence on the members, they don't have to pursue you, even if they hear of serious sin.
All my husband and I ( we were pioneers at the time!!) was ask the elders for answers to various questions. No reply from them, however, an announcement was made one week later that we were disassociated. No communcation whatsoever from anyone, including'friends' of 20 years standing.
Terrific!!
anger over stunt with croc and baby
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melbourne (reuters) - celebrity crocodile hunter steve irwin has triggered outrage after he held his one-month-old baby while feeding a snapping crocodile during a show at his australian zoo.
Just my two cents worth.
We live very close to the Big Business Steve Irwin Compound. He is generally known, I believe, as a 'nut case'. He is always being attacked by the crocs. That should tell you something. Do the crocs know the difference between a chicken and a baby?
just read this article about martin luther -- the wtbts state -- luther recognized that god's favor cannot be earned.
rather , it is granted to those exercising faith romans 1:16; 3:23,24,28 .
these days i do not go to meetings very often so i do not know what is new light and old -- and have read in r. franz coc similar material with ed dunlap and commentary on letter of james.. this implies salvation can not be earned (i.e.
There is an 'elder' who is very much involved in local politics in fact he is the treasurer( surprise, surprise!!). living in the road next to me. Tells everyone he is an accountant, there is no Government records anywhere in Australia saying that is so, do you think that it makes him a liar. Well, well,well. Fancy that!!
at least i am giving it a try.. i have had some minor surgery.
nothing to worry about, but it put me out of physical action for the last two weeks.
this gave me lots of time to think and browse this forum.
All best wishes, take care!!
watchtower 1976 10/15 632-6. .
the "mark" of the beast would identify the one having it as belonging to that "wild beast," giving it full support.
ellicott's bible commentary notes that the mark 'surely means the acquiescence to the principals of this tyrannical world-power.'.
Does anyone yet know if the brothers in Malawi know of what has been done to them by the WTBTS and the difference of them and the Mexicans? Very interested in this as too many times in the past I have wept at the news of what was happening to the Malawians.
last night we had a hell of a storm here.
there was thunder, lightning, pouring rain and wind.
personally i love stormy nights, cuddled up to hubby in a warm bed.
1. Cyclone.
2. Over 100 degrees.
3. Visitors.
4. Snake bite.
5. Any old thing, really.
just been informed that the local p.o.
has publicly announced in front of a few people(local real estate office)that i am a very wicked woman and must be avoided at all cost.
the hearers were not wt people!.
Thanks everyone. I would love to sue him, but at the moment I can't afford the lawyers fees, and as it is when I was a part of this cult they managed by one means or another to get approximately $200.000, correct, $200.000. out of me. Enough already. I have told some locals of the remarks and I must admit they are horrified, they have known me in and out of the "Lie' for years. Things will die down I expect.Take care everyone.
just been informed that the local p.o.
has publicly announced in front of a few people(local real estate office)that i am a very wicked woman and must be avoided at all cost.
the hearers were not wt people!.
Just been informed that the local P.O. has publicly announced in front of a few people(local Real Estate Office)that I am a very wicked woman and must be avoided at all cost. The hearers were not WT people!
This is a very small area I live in and I am well known over many years.
All I said was at one time that whether it was God's organization or not nobody knows as all big businesses need organizing as there would be chaos otherwise, everybody doing their own thing etc. As far as the FDS are concerned they are not dead yet and haven't run the race. So who knows?
Common sense I would think!!
i'm sure all of us were loyal at one time to the watchtower, believing in all of it.
(some of us probaly hated it from day one as well but, ).
what were some of the first things that happened or were said, that made you to start doubting it and beginning the loss of your loyalty to the organization ??????.
The WT/UN debacle, which led on to the Child Abuse issues. We could not possibly hold up our heads after those two things.Romans 1:32 says that you personally do not have to do these things but if you consent to these things, you are the same. The law does not differentiate between the robber and those who buy off the robber.
it seems that the anti cult world is extremely concerned at the moment about a group called "project portal" in brazil.
apparently there are hundreds of members and extensive defections are taking place at the moment, and the group leader, one urandir olivera, is being 'persecuted'extensively by the media.
cult watchers are drawing parallels with jonestown in that they fear olivera may lead his loyal followers in a collective 'beaming up'.
To Shamus.
Before we were DA'd a MS came to our house and on being asked if the GB told him to 'jump off a cliff' would he do so. The reply?.....Of course I would!!. If there was another Jonestown I wouldn't be surprised.
