man is this strange.
this is the family who told me to leave the two sisters alone who were doing our neighborhood a few months back.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/182204/1/moshe-unloads-on-jws.
the husband and wife always looked the other whenever they drive by my house.
Be friendly, be "normal", don't discuss religion. Just let them see that "worldly" people are normal, kind, and a damn sight more friendly and accepting of them as they are than the judgemental hypocrites they're used to dealing with.. If they're fading or "weak", as seems to be the case, they'll be starving for company.. treating them as friends will be the best thing you could do for them...
Best wishes with it all.
my 76 year old mother and her 94 year old mother (my grandmother) are still regular pioneering.
if anyone should understand helping the less fortunate it should be these life time pioneers.
however, this is a conversation i had with my them yesterday.... me: mom, the girls (my 2 teenage daughters) and i have volunteered to serve breakfast and lunch at the soup kitchen new year's eve.
Hypothetical combined question:
Mom: Why would you do something as stupid as that? Then quotes JC saying "you will always have the poor".
Me: Yes, he said that... he also took every opportunity to help the poor and hungry.. why, is the Society now telling us that we can pick and choose what parts of JC's behaviour we want to emulate?
the wt had an international convention in trinidad this past week and here is a picture of a young boy being baptised- get them early before they can undersatnd what they are getting themselves into.
how old does this boy look?
for story: http://guardian.co.tt/features/life/2009/12/30/keep-watch.
Well, his balls haven't dropped yet anyway.. less than 12, maybe 10..
occult = "the term is also used as a label given to a number of magical organisations or orders, the teachings and practices taught by them, and to a large body of current and historical literature and spiritual philosophy related to this subject .
" - wikipedia.
cult = "scholars and non-academic researchers who use the term do so from explicitly critical perspectives which focus on the relationship between cult groups and the individual people who join them.
spammer alert.. 3 posts all for the same site..
this week's congregation "bible" study.
the drone running the show asked an auxiliary question (tm):.
"so, what could be some of the consequences if people weren't honest in reporting their field service?".
But my report is always a healthy 8-12 hours, 4 rvs, 10 mags.
I've seen a few remarks like this.. do you think maybe that's part of what gives the game away? Identical figures, month after month after month? I always used to mix mine up, never quite the same, in any column...
i took the opportunity during the family worship night to show my wife just two samples of the wts double standards and hypocrisy.
let me tell you...boy was i nervous, i didnt know what to expect.
but to my surprise, wify was very receptive.
Very nice story tjlibre! Seeds sewn in fertile ground, and all that..
this week's congregation "bible" study.
the drone running the show asked an auxiliary question (tm):.
"so, what could be some of the consequences if people weren't honest in reporting their field service?".
OM said:
It does sound like they suspect JWs of fraudulent reporting.
Gee.. I wonder what gave them that idea?? All their spies checking out the discussions at JWN, perhaps? <evil grin>
occult = "the term is also used as a label given to a number of magical organisations or orders, the teachings and practices taught by them, and to a large body of current and historical literature and spiritual philosophy related to this subject .
" - wikipedia.
cult = "scholars and non-academic researchers who use the term do so from explicitly critical perspectives which focus on the relationship between cult groups and the individual people who join them.
Thanks, God_Delusion.. interesting subject, and you make some good points.
From the Online Etymological Dictionary (one of my fav sites.. the etymology of words fascinates me)
As you can see, there is no relationship between the two words at all. Thinking back, I do recall similar manipulation of other words, both in WTB$ publications and from the platform, although no examples come to mind right now.. (I've been 'out' for 25 years) Some quick searching via google has not turned up a term to describe this kind of thought control, though I'm sure there would be one.. maybe somebody else would know..
On a more mundane level, concerning occult vs. cult, my Tarot cards and Ouija board are among my most treasured possessions, and I'm quite sure of what a particular cult would have to say about that!
been out 13 years and even for research purposes, i find it way too painful to read this wt stuff.. and why?.
all the painful memories it brings back.
don't misread me, it has nothing to do with a guilty conscience.. it has to do with the real pain, the anger of being ripped off and lied too by the wts, the anger of seing how they have protected child molesters, sacrificed its followers by refusing blood transfusions, the treacherous way we and others were treated by the 'unloving brothers'.
I realised after my first post that I should have included the word nauseating in my reply.. skin-crawlingly nauseating, actually.. maybe because I read none of their shit for 25 years, then looked at a few things quoted/linked to here at JWN. Yep. definitely skin crawly.. creepy..
no not about the blood issue, though i would say yes to that.. what i'm talking about is in regard to the preaching work.
i recently commented on a thread that i thought field service was an inconvenient necessity when you are a witness.
many active ones probably feel the same way today, as it is their ticket to paradise earth.
So why doesn't the GB use modern technology to preach their message? If these really are the last days, isn't it more important to reach as many people as possible so the Armageddon doesn't come an God has to kill billions? Shouldn't we see the WT spending some of their cash on internet advertising, infomercials, radio stations, full page newspaper ads and the like?
Shhh.. don't give 'em ideas.. don't forget, they actually used to have their own radio stations once upon a time.. do you really want to have the airwaves/bandwidth/papers/magazines clogged up with jaydub horseshit?
