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  Who Made The Code?

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a few weeks ago, discoveries were made that show that there is another dna code language that rides on top of the already incredibly complex 4-letter code previously discovered.

  this newly discovered code apparently regulates how genes work.

  as i noted in a previous thread, the amount of data storage available in the dna storage system just the size of a pin-head would filll a stack of books stacked from your driveway to the moon .... 500 times!

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  S&R, this is the question he is trying to ask.... "" Summarizing the state of the art in the study of the code evolution, we cannot escape considerable skepticism. It seems that the two-pronged fundamental question: “why is the genetic code the way it is and how did it come to be?”, that was asked over 50 years ago, at the dawn of molecular biology, might remain pertinent even in another 50 years. Our consolation is that we cannot think of a more fundamental problem in biology."

  That statement is from "The ORIGIN of the genetic code - the universal enigma" at

  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3293468/

  Instead of everyone trying to tell him to go to school or read a book, because if he does, the answer will be, "That was asked over 50 years ago, at the dawn of molecular biology, might remain pertinent even in another 50 years. Our consolation is that we cannot think of a more fundamental problem in biology."

  Science can't figure out the answer to the question. It leaves only 2 possibilites... 1. The means to find the answer on how it spontaneously happened hasn't been discovered yet. 2. It didn't spontaneously happen, it was 'created'.
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  Who Made The Code?

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a few weeks ago, discoveries were made that show that there is another dna code language that rides on top of the already incredibly complex 4-letter code previously discovered.

  this newly discovered code apparently regulates how genes work.

  as i noted in a previous thread, the amount of data storage available in the dna storage system just the size of a pin-head would filll a stack of books stacked from your driveway to the moon .... 500 times!

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  I think one day science may say, if they don't want to say God, they may say a 4th or 5th dimensional creature, alien, etc.

  They already say our entire universe may be the result of a 4th dimensional star that turned into a black hole, maybe soon science will be able to trace / measure / find it's own evidence of higher dimension intelligent life.
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  Ok... so Mom did the robotic JW thing and people in my home country know about me...

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so.... i went out all day today... just wanted to get away from the sh!tstorm that was created yesterday.

  anyways... i come home like an hour ago, and my dad told me that mom called my aunties in central america and told them stuff about me, and also she told the elders of her hall... the elders want to meet with me, but i think that it will be at my house.

  i am curious about your ideas about:.

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  O BTW, when I first started to talk w/ them long ago, they immediately asked, almost the first word out of their mouth....do you still believe in the FDS. I then took control of the conversation and asked them the questions, which halted their initial plans for me to just say I don't believe in them, then they stamp a df for apostate, etc.

  They know I don't, and I've told them, but they couldn't df me because of how i went about it.

  If they ask you that question, then appear very confused, and ask for a clarification of who they are and what they are, because with all the changes and everything you are very confused. And of late there is no appointment over all the belongings so that can add another question but if they ask you, you can say something like this......

  Do I believe in them? Well actually I need to ask you, because I am very confused, what exactly is the official belief supposed to be about them right now and how are we to take what they say? I am sincerely truly confused, I looked up literature and everything contradicts eachother.

  Are they inspired or not? Because some things say they are not inspired at all, and some say they are the only channel of truth or God's channel? If they are not inspired, how can they be the channel of truth? And if they are not inspired, are we supposed to take what they say above what our conscience may feel in the bible? I ask that because with so many changes and such, should we take what they say as advice but if it conflicts with what we read in the bible, take the bible first?

  And also we preach to others we don't follow men but only teh bible and Jesus. So if what they are telling me to do I feel is against the bible, and if they aren't inspired, isn't that following men?

  Asking questions like that instead of answering their question, their brains will melt. Because even for them they've seen all the flipflops and different explanations, they may realize they don't even know what believing in the FDS is.

  You can also ask, "What do you mean by believe in them?" quote the scripture about not putting trust in earthling man but only God.
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  Ok... so Mom did the robotic JW thing and people in my home country know about me...

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so.... i went out all day today... just wanted to get away from the sh!tstorm that was created yesterday.

  anyways... i come home like an hour ago, and my dad told me that mom called my aunties in central america and told them stuff about me, and also she told the elders of her hall... the elders want to meet with me, but i think that it will be at my house.

  i am curious about your ideas about:.

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  First, do you want to be dfed or not?

  It sounds like you just want to finalize everything.

  If you did go the email route, I'd say tell everyone you (if you haven't gone athiest route and still believe in God, etc) that you still do and you have discovered things that bother your conscience with jws. You can insert things like the lies on the website about not shunning those who leave, the deceptiveness of making it appear it's all bible based when everybody really does follow without question the GB, how you feel following the GB who say they aren't inspired feels like idolatry, whatever it was that got you out.

  I'd also say you are fine not talking about anything bible related and still being just family.

  When you meet w/ the elders, if you do, (I've met w/ them and told them everything and I am still not dfed), if you want to possibly be just considered inactive, then you'd have to show that you aren't spreading things. You can say you kept it all to yourself and only told parents. You can bring up the true submission to God brochure, showing how it's preached to others to examine their religion and beliefs, and according to the bible, it was hurting your conscience that you judge them to die at armageddon if they don't, yet you've never done it yourself.

  Tell them you want to serve God, etc, you really need to know the scriptures and WT's, etc, and have on hand the 'public only' articles and materials for your side. For example the nobody should be made to chose between family and their beliefs, or the twisting/lies in the FAQ on jw.org, etc. The things they put in print that they don't practice, if confronted, they will have to either admit they are deceptive lies, or that it's true then they'll have to be lenient, very lenient with you.

  In their own conscience they can't admit the WT lies, is deceptive, etc, so you can use their misleading and lies in print for your own advantage.

  Anyway, I don't know what you know, what you want to do, etc, so too many variable for me to advise fully, but that's a little idea of the route I've gone for the time being.
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  Who Made The Code?

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a few weeks ago, discoveries were made that show that there is another dna code language that rides on top of the already incredibly complex 4-letter code previously discovered.

  this newly discovered code apparently regulates how genes work.

  as i noted in a previous thread, the amount of data storage available in the dna storage system just the size of a pin-head would filll a stack of books stacked from your driveway to the moon .... 500 times!

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  Thanks for that video Perry, that was amazing!

  It's amazing there is an entire world in just a single cell.

  It reminds me of this picture,

  If there is an entire world in just one cell of our bodies, and billions of cells in our body itself, and the fact that our universe looks like a brain cell, perhaps our entire universe is within a braincell of something/ God lol.
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  Who Made The Code?

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a few weeks ago, discoveries were made that show that there is another dna code language that rides on top of the already incredibly complex 4-letter code previously discovered.

  this newly discovered code apparently regulates how genes work.

  as i noted in a previous thread, the amount of data storage available in the dna storage system just the size of a pin-head would filll a stack of books stacked from your driveway to the moon .... 500 times!

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  EndofMysteries

  The summary of that entensive article is this....

  " Summarizing the state of the art in the study of the code evolution, we cannot escape considerable skepticism. It seems that the two-pronged fundamental question: “why is the genetic code the way it is and how did it come to be?”, that was asked over 50 years ago, at the dawn of molecular biology, might remain pertinent even in another 50 years. Our consolation is that we cannot think of a more fundamental problem in biology."

  God +1 Evolution - 1
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  Who Made The Code?

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a few weeks ago, discoveries were made that show that there is another dna code language that rides on top of the already incredibly complex 4-letter code previously discovered.

  this newly discovered code apparently regulates how genes work.

  as i noted in a previous thread, the amount of data storage available in the dna storage system just the size of a pin-head would filll a stack of books stacked from your driveway to the moon .... 500 times!

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  Here is more to add to the question so those who can it can evolve don't avoid it....

  " The existence of variant codes and the success of experiments on the incorporation of unnatural amino acids briefly discussed in the preceding section indicates that the genetic code has a degree of evolvability. However, all these deviations involve only a few codons, so in its main features, the structure of the code seems not to have changed through the entire history of life or, more precisely, at least, since the time of the Last Universal Common Ancestor (LUCA) of all modern (cellular) life forms. "

  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3293468/
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  Ackkkk JWs posting videos on Youtube now

  by fahrvegnugen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well i haven't been here in a long old while, but was browsing around youtube and stumbled across a channel called jehovah's witnesses downloads which appears to be an official cache of propaganda uploaded by the borganization.

  jeezus christ!

  are their any worse actors than jws in those smarmy dramas?

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  Do those videos allow comments or are they blocked?

  The thing to do will be for people to make commentary videos with teh same video title so they appear as related to give the real scoop on what they are saying.
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  A real healing caught on tape

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  has anybody heard of duane miller?

  he lost his voice in 1990, he had been a preacher.

  supposedly its well documented with doctors and specialists and exams some virus or something destroyed it and he wouldn't get it back.

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  Has anybody heard of Duane Miller?

  He lost his voice in 1990, he had been a preacher. Supposedly its well documented with doctors and specialists and exams some virus or something destroyed it and he wouldn't get it back.

  Then in 1993, he was asked to substitute and give a sermon (he could do once in awhile but was in agony afterwards), and it was about healing. He is professing his faith that God can heal if and when he wants, then something strange happens.

  You can hear it live as it happened here..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuBV3uPxaAc

  Any who are now just looking into this or who had before, I am curious what your thoughts are on this.
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  Recently converted JW 15 yr old girl runs away from home...(news)

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/chilliwack-family-blames-rcmp-for-failing-to-return-their-daughter-1.2501557.

  a chilliwack, b.c., family is furious with the rcmp for failing to return their 15-year-old daughter after police found the runaway teen at a downtown vancouver hotel.. jeff wier and candis mccarville-wier are the legal guardians for cassidy mccarville; candis is also her biological mother.

  the teen became a jehovahs witness two years ago but her parents are not followers, and that has been a point of strife between cassidy and her parents.. candis says her daughter has taken the religion too far preaching door to door instead of doing her school work.

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  That's a good idea, they should be directed here as well. THey can maybe fill in their daughter on what she doesn't know.

  She was brought in by lies and deceptions, only following Christ and bible and no men, etc, then slowly the WT's will make her follow the GB, etc. Maybe can be woken up by those things.