Posts by EndofMysteries

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Playing LIVE worldly music and dance party INSIDE kingdomhall??? Is the WT turning pentecostal??

by EndofMysteries in

i can't believe this was a gb approved event since it was for international convention people.

if somebody tried to do this on a wedding they'd get dfed in a heart beat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dqcj6e78jm.

EndofMysteries

I can't believe this was a GB approved event since it was for international convention people.

If somebody tried to do this on a wedding they'd get dfed in a heart beat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dqCJ6E78jM

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RE-branding, is the WT going to be a completely new religion in a few years?

by Crazyguy in

thier pushing jw.org and thiers speculation that the name watchtower is going by by.

also they may even drop the name jehovah referencing the new bible at pages 1735-37 i believe.

do you think that the names jehovah's witnesses, watchtower, are going away to be replaced by another?

EndofMysteries

I think they will do away with the "WATCHTOWER" soon. Maybe change the name and do away w/ the symbol.

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How many of you 'understand' american politics and vote? (this could be a key issue on getting WT looked at more closely)

by EndofMysteries in

please answer even if you don't know anything about it and don't care or don't participate.

being a born in, never allowed to participate, throughout school whatever i learned was in one ear and out the other.

i had forgotton almost everything.

EndofMysteries

Please answer even if you don't know anything about it and don't care or don't participate.

Being a born in, never allowed to participate, throughout school whatever I learned was in one ear and out the other. I had forgotton almost everything.

So if you were anything like me, when you got out, you probably didn't know too much. You may not even care because your whole life you hadn't cared and never learned much about it.

I'm seeking a degree and to get it, I HAD to take an american government class. I thought I was going to hate it, but I've really enjoyed it. I now understand the whole process for how things work, and what it takes for a law or change to pass.

The purpose of this thread is this.....I'm assuming most EX JW's, especially the older/later you get out, probably don't know much about the system and if they do vote may only be as far as president, if you haven't really learned how the system works.

The government doesn't have a department that looks into each religion or each little thing looking for changes to make or if something wrong is being done. Here is the ONLY way to really get the government to look into possible law changes to prevent the WT from continuing the abuses it's able to do.......(some of you know this already, some this will be new)

For a law or legislation to be passed or even entertained it begins in the House of Representatives.

There are 435 representatives throughout the country that are all assigned to a district. You can write to the representative for your district. Now if all ex jw's were writing to their district representatives, they would take the complaints, and if it was seemingly a problem and frequent issue being brought up to many of them, they would send it to an appropriate committee to investigate the issue and at this point it's in the system and they may find they are abusing power and going beyond what freedom of religion gives, especially since children never had a choice to join and the hurtful effects they are causing.

The whole point though is this, the WT gets everybody out of politics and born ins are never a part of it. The House of Representatives will never go over this issue unless the congressman are bringing it up, and the congressman will never know there is even a problem unless their constituents are notifying them of the problem, and no EX JW's will be notifying them of the problem if they remain politically ignorant.

At the very least, if you locate the congressman for your district, send him a letter, and all EX JW's do this, then it may get the ball rolling for a real change.

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RE-branding, is the WT going to be a completely new religion in a few years?

by Crazyguy in

thier pushing jw.org and thiers speculation that the name watchtower is going by by.

also they may even drop the name jehovah referencing the new bible at pages 1735-37 i believe.

do you think that the names jehovah's witnesses, watchtower, are going away to be replaced by another?

EndofMysteries

I think it already practically is. How much it's changed in the past 5-10 years and the dumbing down with every change.

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YES, you CAN shag your friends maid!!! It's all good !!

by DATA-DOG in

20 if a man lies carnally with a woman who is a slave, betrothed to another man and not yet ransomed or given her freedom, an inquiry shall be held.

they shall not be put to death, because she was not free; 21 but he shall bring a guilt offering for himself to the lord , to the door of the tent of meeting, a ram for a guilt offering.

22 and the priest shall make atonement for him with the ram of the guilt offering before the lord for his sin which he has committed; and the sin which he has committed shall be forgiven him.. leviticus 19:20-22.

EndofMysteries

DD - you forgot the two other parts for ancient Israel. A butt ugly hopeless case who even the fathers would refuse to sell to him would only have to rape the hottest virgin he could find then he would be forced to pay the going market rate for her and they'd be forced to marry.

Or the rich ones like Solomon, if they have wives, unlimited amount, they need to properly take care of them, housing, etc, but if finances were tight or if they were just cheap they could also claim concubines who let less benefits, etc.

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I love my life, I don't want to die

by losingit in

hello everyone..... i've been thinking a lot lately, when i have a chance to be alone my mind immediately comes to the topic at hand-- i don't want to die.

what would happen to my precious little girls?

but i'm so scared that it's going to happen.

EndofMysteries

And my holding on to a belief in God is not due to blind hope. Because as I said in my above response, even with God, there is a chance this is it. I wish if he was around observing he'd somehow send atleast convicing proof to us individually of what if anything may be in store after we die.

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I love my life, I don't want to die

by losingit in

hello everyone..... i've been thinking a lot lately, when i have a chance to be alone my mind immediately comes to the topic at hand-- i don't want to die.

what would happen to my precious little girls?

but i'm so scared that it's going to happen.

EndofMysteries

What BotR says can be true, but only intensifying things. I have the concern myself, after learning TTATT and not having that certainty anymore, I still believe in a God but I am not certain what if any future there is for us humans. There was even a book, it may have been the book of enoch or another book closely related to the bible, that said men weren't created to be immortal or to life indefinitely like the angels. That was the reason angels were forbidden to marry or take women. But men and anything of flesh do die. So even an ancient book about God, there was a teaching that this is it. And even though I'm fairly young, the more time goes by the faster it goes. Life feels WAY too short. So I'm sure your concerns are legit but your response to them can be exaggerated by hormones.

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The Governing Body should be kicked out due to old age

by EndofMysteries in

in bethel, and with co's, etc, once a person is too old to be of much use, they are kicked out and left to satan's welfare system to care for them.

why is it that governing body members are in position for life?

they don't get super human power, so they should be kicked out and left to government welfare at the same age they have felt it appropriate to kick the others out and let a younger, stronger governing body take over.

EndofMysteries

In Bethel, and with CO's, etc, once a person is too old to be of much use, they are kicked out and left to Satan's welfare system to care for them. Why is it that Governing Body members are in position for life? They don't get super human power, so they should be kicked out and left to government welfare at the same age they have felt it appropriate to kick the others out and let a younger, stronger governing body take over.

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The Sept 15 WT " Are You Convinced That You Have The Truth? Why?

by BluesBrother in

this article title leapt out at me and i thought that at last we may see some solid argument as to why the wt teaches what it does, some "reasoning on the scriptures ".. well... the theme scripture set a good scene, being rom 12.2 " prove to yourself the good and acceptable and perfect will of god" .

ok , let's prove it - logically.. the article starts by citing the witnesses neutrality and refusal to bear arms as a reason to believe.

now i happen to agree with that stand , but is it unique to j w's ?

EndofMysteries

Very interesting comment Ocean111. If the JW's were following the model of early years, they would have probably put back in the physical Israel into having substantial impacts in bible prophecy. They would be focusing on middle east tensions and making links to bible prophecies, etc.

For myself, at the moment, that is one of the only things that has me very intrigued and interested with bible prophecy and this point in time. Because the prophecies on physical Israel have still continued to come true.

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How do you feel ethically about the Governing Body?

by runForever in

jw
friends

if something terrible were to happen to the members of the current gb would you feel bad?.

EndofMysteries

Now the brainwashed R&F I would feel bad for. I still have family in there and having been there myself, they are just brainwashed and have no control of their own lives. But those who are responsible for doing all of this and carrying it out I would have zero sympathy for.