if I recall correctly, the book of enoch (fragments found in dead sea scrolls confirming authenticity), describes a few sets of spirits. the angels who rebelled who are currently imprisoned and the spirits of the nephilim (since 1/2 human 1/2 spirit) who are the 'demons' who wander the Earth.
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Questions From Readers : Did Jesus preach to the dead people of Noah's days?
by raymond frantz insorry guys i posted that the other day but with some of the actual post missing ,here it is again .please feel free to find errors,raise questions or fill me in with any more valueable information on the matter .i don't claim to know it all i'm just someone who's constantly looking for answers as most of you here :.
did jesus preach to the dead souls of people from noahs days?what does 1 peter 3:19, 20 mean?
in this state [in the spirit, following his resurrection] also he [jesus] went his way and preached to the spirits in prison, who had once been disobedient when the patience of god was waiting in noahs days, while the ark was being constructed, in which a few people, that is, eight souls [souls, kj, dy; people, tev, jb; persons, rs], were carried safely through the water.
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Armageddon is only a few weeks away...
by Calebs Airplane in"which generation is this?
why, the one that saw the beginning of fulfillment of jesus prophecy.
that means people alive in the year 1914. how many remain?
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You want to see a zombie apocalypse? Go to a kingdomhall during the Nov 2014 WT study bashing sessions. Sit in the front row and turn around and you'll see the glazed look on a whole crowd of zombies.
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Armageddon is only a few weeks away...
by Calebs Airplane in"which generation is this?
why, the one that saw the beginning of fulfillment of jesus prophecy.
that means people alive in the year 1914. how many remain?
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Or they may take the route from the book of Enoch or one of those books that brought out how during Noah's time when God mentioned 120 years, it was literally 120 years left remaining until the flood would hit. If the GB grabs that one, then they'll be saying it will come in 2034 lol.
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ISIS Kills American Soldier, Will Watchtower Speak Out Finally?
by BucketShopBill inhttp://www.tristatehomepage.com/story/d/story/isis-terror-group-kills-2nd-american-journalist/12500/0kjo7mxf0kalqvmlyykl-g.
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No, the GB is too afraid of losing their heads.
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The government should TAX the WT for the social services spent on JW's.
by EndofMysteries insince there is an abundant supply of literature where the gb tell members not to get education, not to plan for retirement, not to worry about their health, all vs doing more literature peddling, perhaps the government should stick a monthly bill to the wt for the social services, retirement, welfare, medicaid, etc, that is being spent on members because of their insisting that they don't take care of themselves and plan for the future.
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how quickly would 'new light' come that each member should plan for retirement, should get good schooling, etc??
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I agree w/ everything EXCEPT the walmart comment.
Minimum wage being raised, or forcing walmart and other minimum wage companies to increase wages will HARM vs help the economy. Minimum wage is not supposed to be a wage that is liveable on your own. Wages are also a product of supply and demand. If you don't like the wage, go to school, learn something that pays better and get at it. If nobody worked at walmart because they paid to little, they would increase the wage.
Also, people seem to not understand that increasing minimum wage does not mean that they will have the spending power of that wage as it stands today. If minimum wage is increased or companies forced to pay more, then it raises the prices everywhere. A person getting $8 an hour can buy a $3 or $4 burger. Force a wage increase to $12 an hour and then they can get a $5 or $6 burger. They are making more money but they can't buy anymore. So the poor remain exactly in the same spot, but those who get above minimum wage are the ones who get hurt.
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The Real Reason For No More Bookstudies.
by ctrwtf inso i was just thinking about my days at wtf and driving out for book study when it dawned on me.. bethelites are given a stipend for travel based on nyc public transportation.
depending on how you pay let's just call it a $5.00 round trip.. if you drive your care you're also reimbursed for mileage at the standard irs rate.
let's round that down to .50 per mile.. if four bethelites get in a car and drive an average of 30 miles to the (former) bookstudy the society is spending 4x$5.00 for the stipend plus and additional $30.00 for mileage.
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steve2 - in the rest of the world they have diesel hybrids and excellent public transportation that allows one to get anywhere as quick or quicker by train(some as fast as 300mph), tram, subway, etc than by car. In the USA we are spinned the story, "No selling of diesel hybrids and other cars that get 60 to 100mpg because nobody would want them", and if you take a train anywhere, expect it to take 4X or longer than driving.
I was in Switzerland, gas costs more, but all the vehicles got double/triple gas mileage, so it ended up costing the same or even less.
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A question JW's cannot answer (also need help)
by Matt_fs inman, its been years since i posted on here.
when i was in deep discussion with my very close jw friend, this forum helped me tremendously, so thank you all for your help and knowledge.. many years ago i went to my jw friends house with one sheet of paper with my notes and questions.
i had him stumped and he said he would get back to me (which he never did).. anyways, many years have passed without even discussing anything and just the other day he brought it up and wanted to see what he couldn't answer.
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The only thing I think you might be talking about then is in Revelation? About the first and the last, the alpha and omega? There are a few of those in revelation and I know the WT says one is Jesus and one is Jehovah or something to that effect.
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Why Europe Will Let Ukraine Go
by metatron inhttp://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htmurph/articles/20140831.aspx.
if the us wants war, they can pay for it and fight it.
world peace thru budgeting constraints would still be world peace.. .
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It's not that Europe doesn't care, it's that Europe is very smart. Many parts of Europe enjoy a very comfortable way of life. No unemployment, great health, benefits, etc. They know that if they don't do anything, the war mongering industrial complex in USA, with it's 500billion a year+ income, that was throwing a hissy fit because it wasn't getting a raise this year, will be all to happy to donate american lives and tax money so that they can get profit off of this.
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JW.org is a DIFFERENT religion from the WT and Kingdomhall
by EndofMysteries inhas anybody else noticed the huge 180 degree under the public jw.org vs the material in the study articles?
other than jw.org showing that shunning of family and those who left the religion does not happen, yet in the kingdomhall and wt is does happen.
look at jwborgs stance on quitting school and getting higher education.... http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/teenagers/ask/quit-school/ can anybody show one wt that says what is in the borg website?
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hoser - good point and I have done that. The only reason I'm not dfed is because I presented all sorts of articles and information, (intended for bible studies and not for watchtower studies) and the elders had only 2 choices at that point. A. Admit and claim that the WT and GB are lying and being deceptive. B. That those 'other' articles are true and I am not doing anything wrong (then they don't have to admit the WT is lying, but can't take action on me).
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JW.org is a DIFFERENT religion from the WT and Kingdomhall
by EndofMysteries inhas anybody else noticed the huge 180 degree under the public jw.org vs the material in the study articles?
other than jw.org showing that shunning of family and those who left the religion does not happen, yet in the kingdomhall and wt is does happen.
look at jwborgs stance on quitting school and getting higher education.... http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/teenagers/ask/quit-school/ can anybody show one wt that says what is in the borg website?
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One thing that puzzles me is that previous lawsuits had been tossed out (shunning, practices, etc) because the courts said that the religion has a right to set it's own doctrine and laws/bylaws and if it follows it's own rules nothing can be done about it.
Why have those lawsuits not been challenged showing the WT is breaking it's own laws/bylaws but showing the 'public' version of it's rules?
The person can say they joined based upon the presented information, or a born in can say they read the articles about checking everything and not being shunned/family is family no matter what, etc, then the courts would see they have printed double versions of everything with opposite outcomes so they can pick and choose how they please.