hello forum,.
i'm new here and not sure where to post.
so, i'm 21 years old and currently a baptized witness, however, i'm slowly making my mind up to leave and here's why.. first, there are certain things that make no sense to me in the organization.
All those saying he shouldn't DA but fade, are we assuming he has family in he?
Anyway Garrett, if you DA, just expect never to really be able to talk to those who are in again. If you don't have family in or anybody you care to keep in contact with, then by all means DA or just don't show up again.
apologies if this has already been posted but i am speechless.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnbmyudrwgs&x-yt-ts=1422327029&x-yt-cl=84838260#t=72.
Here is an up version, better copy it, download, etc, if anybody wants to have fun with them and edit, etc before it gets taken down.
my mom called me yesterday to ask how i was doing.
i hadn't seen her in a while, so it was nice to hear her voice.
we went through the motions of jw small talk and then she started telling me about her co visit from last week.
of these, over 2,000 were admitted to concentration camps.
1,000 died in prison and concentration camps.
another 1,000 of jehovah's witnesses died in prisons and concentration camps.".
i know that logging in has been a problem for some.
i hardly post any more.
i figured there would be more activity than this.
I agree w/ snare. Especially if most don't know about snippets and the adjustments that can be made.
If not then it should default to title only like the old format and default to 20 topics. (from my experience until I asked and simon told me that, it was too much information and work to screen topics for me).
I think too that the right bar is too big. It's 1/2 page and when in a topic or looking at topics, I for one never look at or use the right side. Unless somebody is told, most probably won't figure out 'snippets' either. But it makes the message board seem very crowded and squeezed into 1/2 page, and if scrolled to the top of the page, the threads and message board are almost squeezed into 1/4 of the whole page in the lower left corner.
I'm recently going back on more, but for awhile it just felt 'tiring', having to read a lot for each topic vs just titles until I figured out snippets, and all menu bars and ads with huge fonts and space and the message board feeling crammed into a tiny area, only way I could describe is tiring.
Last thing, this won't keep me from posting or coming back, but thread views was a 'fun' factor and at times I'm more likely to post if I notice it's a hot topic with onlookers. Since that was removed, now we have no idea if a topic is viewed by only those participating or thousands of lurkers too.
my mom called me yesterday to ask how i was doing.
i hadn't seen her in a while, so it was nice to hear her voice.
we went through the motions of jw small talk and then she started telling me about her co visit from last week.
apologies if this has already been posted but i am speechless.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnbmyudrwgs&x-yt-ts=1422327029&x-yt-cl=84838260#t=72.
since so many athiests in this thread, and since i'm going to college, i was curious if what i would learn in biology would change my thoughts and show that life clearly and easily spontaneously happened.
just looking up the origins of dna or rna there is nothing conclusive.
for example, scientists today are able to manipulate life.
So, anyway, there is no requirement of science to test every possible idea. A person may choose to go that route, but it is certainly not part of the scientific method.
So Viviane, in Turkey there are these ancient ruins that have been uncovered, the Gobekli Tepe. Now why is it people are assuming that humans made them? Why aren't scientists coming up with theories on how natural processes made it? A bunch of earthquakes and things could have caused the stones to get carved up, and then landshift and earthquakes cause them to get filled up and buried, etc.
Anyway, how life first began, that is life on this planet, looking into intelligent life vs random as part of all possibilities then your claim that then one must look at a rhino made of pigs is a ridiculous comparison. One would consider the possiblity where any sort of intelligent life is responsible for life on this planet, whether biological alien scientists, God, a rhino of pigs, etc. Before specifics of how many broad possibilities for how life began. 1. Random from chemicals and conditions of 3.5 billion years ago and it all began on this planet. 2. Remnants from another planet/world/solar system/galaxy (water) got to this planet and started the cycle. 3. Biological intelligent life started it. 4. Life that is not biological or beyond what we know began it. etc.etc.
Anyway the scientific process doesn't mean that all hypothesis that life originates on this planet and by random chance and that is the only possibility that is considered and investigated. If that is what you believe then your as close minded as you were when you were a JW.
i'll add many things in the bible i don't agree with, but the bible is a collection of books.
now to make sure i'm reading as closely to what is written in genesis, i look at this hebrew interlinear, because english translating and rearranging of words can change it.
http://www.scripture4all.org/onlineinterlinear/otpdf/gen1.pdf.
god was always in existence what was he doing before he created the universe ?
This ideology that a god created things on set time scale as a day or a thousands years equal to one day, is quite laughable.
I guess he did that because he foreknew that one day humans would be eventually writing about what he was doing ???
If that is also so, then he foreknew that the humans he was going to create were going to eventually sin and write the genesis account. .......ummmm ???
Got to admit that's one smart god !
This is sort of an example of where I think science only drops the ball. Not sure if the answer is a reason to dismiss that this kind of knowledge seems quite advanced for somebody in a desert 2500+ years ago.
We have 2 tools to learn or attempt to discover our origins, science and archaeology. And it's funny that scientists are so keen to look for life and other planets but ignore and look into if other life has visited us in the past.
If science is only looking at life originating here or the first intelligent life being humans, then if somehow the answer was that we originate from the destruction of another world, or brought or made from other life, if we were an experiment, etc.
If the knowledge and accomplishments of ancients is shown to be very advanced or knowing things they couldn't have known then, writing it off as not worth investigating because they believe in magic. If you could time travel, you may be written about as being a god if you brought and used some technology today.
Sodom and Gommorah - nuclear blast Materializing - teleporting Releasing a plague - biological warfare The vessel coming out of the sky unloading all sorts of animals on Earth in the vision of Peter - spaceship
The point is the true answers may or may not be found with investigating what the ancients knew, believed, and taught, but ignoring it all if they do have clues and what we are looking for is way different from the reality, then we will never know if we skip the paths that would have led to the answers.
