Posts by EndofMysteries

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Outright rejecting intelligent design is rejecting evolution

by EndofMysteries in

i've often heard by many that if all life on earth was created by some entity, and not the true origin of everything, then that's just passing things down and so they outright reject any sort of intelligent design and either there is evidence that everything was created by the ultimate entity or everything was spontaneous.

if such was the thinking with evolution, then there would have been no chain to follow.

either everything went directly from a single cell to what they are now or that's just passing things down too.

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I find it intriguing that, among other things, Creationism teaches that a more complex entity is necessary to create a less complex one (e.g., the "God-created-man" thesis), but that the more complex one (e.g., God) was not created.

That is religion. If creationism is along the lines of intelligent design then that's not the case. It's completely open for now. For example, we could create artificial intelligence and if programmed correctly where it becomes self aware and with limitless possibilities for learning and taking in information as well as the ability to repair and upgrade itself if the program was put into a robot or machine that allowed it to interact with the physical world as well it could far surpass us. Creationism/intelligent design doesn't have to involve religion and could be completely different than what every ancient writing says, but if the above case is similar to reality and there are fragments of truth in old writings, perhaps that is why the gods were afraid of man's potential and confused the languages.

If life always advances down the chain then could be we came from something inferior, providing there was intelligent design. Or whatever made us kept us inferior, limiting life span, etc. But with science progression, if we were made by other biological life and programmed with genetic code, then possibly scientists will find a way to change lifespan or to change coding so our bodies can keep repairing itself and live forever.

Your comment though is the barrier to even researching these possibilities. Take a statement of religious nature and imply that any sort of intelligent design can only apply to a religious teaching then there is no investigation into the possibility and we may forever be held back from advancing on a debate on how life originated here.

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Outright rejecting intelligent design is rejecting evolution

by EndofMysteries in

i've often heard by many that if all life on earth was created by some entity, and not the true origin of everything, then that's just passing things down and so they outright reject any sort of intelligent design and either there is evidence that everything was created by the ultimate entity or everything was spontaneous.

if such was the thinking with evolution, then there would have been no chain to follow.

either everything went directly from a single cell to what they are now or that's just passing things down too.

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http://www.cidmod.org/sidurisadvice/Gilgamesh.pdf

Here are some of the parts that are interesting to me....

page 66 on the PDF speaks of this person.l...."his body is matted with hair....with gazelles he grazes on grasses....when the hunter saw him, his expression froze, but he with his herds(the wild man) he went back to his lair.......

(then whoever or whatever are those on the land after the hunter reports back send a harlot to seduce this wild man)

page 73 on the pdf (The 'taming' of Enkidu)......

"You are handsome, Enkidu, you are just like a god! Why with the beasts do you wander the wild?........Bread they set before him, ale they set before him. Enkidu ate not the bread, but look askance. How to eat bread Enkidu knew not, how to drink ale he had never been shown.......The barber groomed his body so hairy, anointed with oil he turned into a man. He put on a garment, became like a warrior...

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Outright rejecting intelligent design is rejecting evolution

by EndofMysteries in

i've often heard by many that if all life on earth was created by some entity, and not the true origin of everything, then that's just passing things down and so they outright reject any sort of intelligent design and either there is evidence that everything was created by the ultimate entity or everything was spontaneous.

if such was the thinking with evolution, then there would have been no chain to follow.

either everything went directly from a single cell to what they are now or that's just passing things down too.

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Epic of Gilgamesh is one small example, it describes almost an ape man or neanderthal.

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Outright rejecting intelligent design is rejecting evolution

by EndofMysteries in

i've often heard by many that if all life on earth was created by some entity, and not the true origin of everything, then that's just passing things down and so they outright reject any sort of intelligent design and either there is evidence that everything was created by the ultimate entity or everything was spontaneous.

if such was the thinking with evolution, then there would have been no chain to follow.

either everything went directly from a single cell to what they are now or that's just passing things down too.

EndofMysteries

I've often heard by many that if all life on Earth was created by some entity, and not the true origin of everything, then that's just passing things down and so they outright reject any sort of intelligent design and either there is evidence that EVERYTHING was created by the ultimate entity or everything was spontaneous.

If such was the thinking with evolution, then there would have been no chain to follow. Either everything went directly from a single cell to what they are now or that's just passing things down too.

You can't deny that we may have been created by something else that also had it's origin elsewhere. You must go down the chain where ever it leads if you ever hope to learn the truth. By dismissing those possibilities means evidence isn't even being looked at or considered, it may be right under our eyes. Let's say were were created by other biological lifeforms, then could even be evidence on Earth or traces of them having been here we'll never figure out because it's not even considered a possibility to begin with, etc.

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New Light! People CAN now be saved AFTER the Tribulation begins!

by FusionTheism in

for decades, i remember the society, publications, and elders saying that once the great tribulation begins, it is too late to repent or be saved.

they said the "door of the ark will have been closed.".

now, however, look at the brand-new clarified understanding / new light on this from jw.org, below.. they are still saying that the majority of worldly people will not be saved, but they are now saying it is possible.. the simplified july study watchtower says this:.

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They don't even understand the bible, the old gb's made up things without ever reading in context.

What the bible really says about the GT. In Revelation, when speaking about the congregations, those who have God's favor may be spared the ordeals that will come upon during the GT. The GT is to test those who aren't there yet, and give everybody one last chance to repent, change, etc.

The WT very slowly at times tries to teach what it says in context vs their own ideas on cherry picking scriptures then proclaims it as divine new light when it's been there if read in context clear as crystal all along. Then all the drones get excited that they are pointing out the obvious that they never bothered to try to read since they are taught satan will infiltrate their minds if they read the bible and develop any interpretation outside of the GB's.

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Rutherford's Satanic Lie

by Icarus in

satan: "you certainly will not die!".

rutherford: "millions now living will never die!

"when satan told his lie, adam and eve both died despite his assurances.

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marked

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Mother's day according to Joseph Rutherford

by opusdei1972 in

this is what the second president of the watchtower society, the channel of god appointed in 1919, wrote about the mother's day:.

satan would turn the people away from this beautiful symbol, and therefore from god, and cause them to disregard the word of the lord.

this he does in a very subtle way by organizing what in england and in america, the chief countries of christendom, is called "mother's day".

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It would almost be comforting if there was a hell and a special place in it for Rutherford.

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Attention Lurkers- what the org is really doing

by stuckinamovement in

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friends

the message has changed dramatically from the good news of the kingdom and imitation of jesus to the following:.

1. keep your eye simple and try to find a low paying part time job so you can pioneer.

such jobs might be janitorial or house cleaning, yard care, etc.

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Why are people burning their city to the ground in Baltimore? How doe Looting and Mob Violence Help?

by PokerPlayerPhil in

it's hard enough for businesses to enter these areas the government once had to offer up tax breaks to service them.

in watts, california it took decades for city residents to get a grocery store after the thugs burned their businesses to the ground.

you can see the insanity taking place, when you allow mobs and fools to burn building down nothing good comes from it.

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Officer killed, this is the video from his body cam. Before watching it, imagine you are the officer. The guy showed no aggression, the officer was acting very nice, look at what happens. Every time an officer has to as much as question somebody they have no idea if something like this will happen to them. Now imagine if they begin resisting, the chances of something like this happening increase, especially if they have not patted them down yet. If people get hurt for resisting, it's on them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB5FaW5qKMo

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Why are people burning their city to the ground in Baltimore? How doe Looting and Mob Violence Help?

by PokerPlayerPhil in

it's hard enough for businesses to enter these areas the government once had to offer up tax breaks to service them.

in watts, california it took decades for city residents to get a grocery store after the thugs burned their businesses to the ground.

you can see the insanity taking place, when you allow mobs and fools to burn building down nothing good comes from it.

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And for the life of me, can somebody explain why when any politician or Obama open their trap, they make comments with no facts to fan the flames? Obama's comment on the police attacks against black men as a 'slow rolling crisis'. Why are figures and statistics never quoted? That a whole whopping 130ish black people died at hands of police last year and around 180+ more white people? But thousands of thug on thug deaths.

There is absolutely no crisis, absolutely no increase or police targeting blacks to kill them. Bad police have killed blacks and whites. And even so considering the numbers, arrests, crime, etc, it's a small number and as many have pointed out, they are resisting or something which added to it.