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oppostate
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The End of Circuit Overseers
by wisdomfrombelow ini am sure that the term "circuit overseer" will be gone soon.
they seem to be changing vocabulary and the presiding overseer is now the "coordinator of the body of elders" and all "district overseers" will be gone in a few months.
they used to be called "circuit servants" but they will never re-hash an old term so they will make a new term.
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Jehovah Witness An Organization Of Shame.
by WhoYourDaddy ini don't have anything good to say about these people.. if you can get past all of the ambient abuse.. if you can get past all of the twisted lies and shameful history.. if you can get past all of the familes destroyed and children damaged from the blood and 2 witness policy.. if you can get past all of the real estate laundering and for profit lies; it is all about the money.. if you can get past all of the hypocricy and bitterness.. if you can get past all of the gb megalomaniacs.. if you can get past all those things.. i still can't find anything good to say about this shameful group of ignorant people.. shame on each and every one of you controlling liers.. shame on each and every one of you who aid and abet this continued ambient abuse and ridiculous fraud of an organization.. shame on you..
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oppostate
@WhoYourDaddy
You weren't a JW baptized publisher by any chance, were you?
If you were to read what you wrote as a baptized publisher you'd be shocked and wouldn't think any of those things were accurate.
Would you apply those things to the organization while being an active Witness?
I too believe that the R&F Witnesses are mostly good hearted people who have been deceived by a self-serving printing and realestate holdings corporation posing as a religion.
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How Many Circuit Overseers And District Overseers Really Believe The Governing Body Is Really The Faithful and Discreet Slave and That The Watchtower Is God's Earthly Organization?
by frankiespeakin ini'm thinking around 20% have serious doubts and 99% have some doubts but keep them from becoming conscious to avoid cognitive dissonance.
this is becoming increasingly harder to do over the fact that the governing body are showing their true colors and the contridictions are so great..
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oppostate
The original discussion can be reached at:
Interesting to pass on what I heard from a substitute-CO about filling in for a regular CO while the CO was in training...
They were testing out whether local brothers could take the lead in circuit visits and then in turn the regular CO would be their trainer.
This was like five years ago. But then the CO's were moved all over again and nothing like that happened.
As to DO's... I knew Bro. Herd as a DO and he could be quite frank about the ordeals he'd gone through as a CO, but he actually seemed to liked being suppressed, having to endure all kinds of hardships and put up with the rules and the regulations that didn't make much sense, but he went along willingly doing his assignments, all this from what he told it like in a very free manner, like if you got a letter with a tongue lashing and you didn't feel that you deserved it he'd just chalk it up to the many times when he'd deserved it and got away without scolding from the Branch. I guess that's how to go up in the hierarchy, and he did, he made it to the GB.
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watchtower library 2013 spanish please!!! por favor en español..
by ar123 inany of you guys have the watchtower library 2013 in spanish???
alguno de ustedes tiene la watchtower library 2013 en espanol?.
alguien lo podria subir??.
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I need some urgent advice, please!!
by alonein321 inhere's my story.
i'm 24 years old and i live in brazil.
i'm a 3rd gen born-in jw and all close relatives in the borg (parents, grandparents, uncles, wife, inlaws) except my little sister (she's 16 and didnt buy jw doctrine).
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@alonein321
Oi! Whatever you do don't do it hastily or in a moment of heated feelings!
Think trough to conclusions and try to know what conclusion is the one you'd be most comfortable with.
For now don't DA if you can help it. As others have also mentioned here on JWN you are better able to
wriggle for room to breath within the org than outside of it where they'll want to take your air out and
leave you to flap around like a dying fish out of water.
Write your BOE a letter and tell them you can no longer put up with the lack of love and disruption of your
life by people in the Congregation who are supposed to take the lead but instead are taking advantage of
their position to make others' lives miserable. Tell them you are quitting their congregation but are not
disassociating in any way, and hold on to your right to seek another congregation to fellowship in where
they may be more loving and actually exercise Christian conduct. If the elders try to harass you they will
meet with legal action since you no longer consider yourself a voting member of the congregation and a
publisher there. Since you are withdrawing from membership in the congregation you do not want any
retribution against you and any such will be met with legal action against them. Also you are not involving
the WTB&TS unless they choose to give support to the un-Christian leadership now in control of the
congregation. If so they will also be included in any further legal measures you have to take.
That may buy you off some time to be able to get the BOE off your back, and in the meantime be as nice
and good to your wife as you can, as a Christian man is expected to, and as someone who has put a lot
of time into that relationship to throw it away for the sake of a bunch of brainwashed followers of a
printing and realestate holdings corporation.
Don't let them control you! Use their legalistic tactics against them.
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The New WT Headquarters and APOSTATES
by suavojr init is amazing how bethel is the best at making apostates!
i wonder how many new up and coming apostates the new wt headquarters will generate?.
what nice and fresh stories will surface from the secluded and private wt hub?
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oppostate
@suavojr.
Dragon's Kitchen sounds quite orientally themed to me, for some reason.
How about some TTATT take-out? :-)
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TV Ideas For JWNers. "Luther", "Dexter" "The Killings" "Braquo"-
by RottenRiley ini am looking for more ideas of interesting movies and gritty crime shows to watch.. .
the killings, wallander, luther, dexter, braquo (french (english subbed) german (berlin berlin), sherlock, george gently, inspector frost, inspector lewis, did i say "dexter (though the ending was a bummer :( ) "orange is the new black", "house of cards", "mad men".. .
can you add to my profile of movies and series i need to see?
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SOME are MORE EQUAL than OTHERS
by oppostate ingeorge orwell's animal farm reminds me a lot of the wt organization.
often we find jwn members quoting from 1984, and so appropriately too.. but animal farm has the pigs being "more equal" than other animals in the farm.
what started as a "congregation of brothers" if it ever really was that in the russellite beginings has become a hierarchy controlled by an oligarchy where some, as the governing body, are more "equal", and thus more powerful and can do no wrong by the less powerful and loyal subjects.. .
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oppostate
@maninthemiddle, thanks for the photo! A picture can say so much more, especially with the "Big Bro" painting above it.
Maybe that's the reason why the GB is coming out with so many pictures of themselves, it's Big Brother worship in JW disguise.
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Funny experience last night...
by pronomono inmy story in brief..... after being a born-in, getting baptized at 15, and seeking to excel based on the approval of elders and my parents, i hit a bump in the road.
i moved to a new congregation, and was a little more than disheartened by the lack of love.
with all my responsibilities removed from the recent move and being told that i no longer qualified for responsibilities due to my declining activity, i sat down to do some long overdue research to appreciate our spiritual heritage.
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oppostate
Not shunning is the right thing to do.
You are the "better person" for not following the WT blindly and shunning a Christian brother who may have stumbled.
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SOME are MORE EQUAL than OTHERS
by oppostate ingeorge orwell's animal farm reminds me a lot of the wt organization.
often we find jwn members quoting from 1984, and so appropriately too.. but animal farm has the pigs being "more equal" than other animals in the farm.
what started as a "congregation of brothers" if it ever really was that in the russellite beginings has become a hierarchy controlled by an oligarchy where some, as the governing body, are more "equal", and thus more powerful and can do no wrong by the less powerful and loyal subjects.. .
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oppostate
George Orwell's Animal Farm reminds me a lot of the WT Organization. Often we find JWN members quoting from 1984, and so appropriately too.
But Animal Farm has the pigs being "more equal" than other animals in the farm. What started as a "congregation of brothers" if it ever really was that in the Russellite beginings has become a hierarchy controlled by an oligarchy where some, as the Governing Body, are more "equal", and thus more powerful and can do no wrong by the less powerful and loyal subjects.
So why is the Governing Body more "equal". Because they have the power to change the meaning of words. That's why, just like the pigs in Animal Farm. If equal becomes another meaning of "entitled, deserving, above others" then the SOME truly are lording it over the OTHERS.
Too, the recent BOE letter about the name changes of "district conventions" to "regional conventions" is an example of Orwellian word manipulations. Of course, the book "1984" shows many examples of this that we could point to. But Animal Farm uses some humor in exposing these more equal ones for what they really are, a bunch of greedy unclean swine.
Where's the Achille's Heel in this? I'll make that another post.