Posts by oppostate

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Wish You Knew? Ask a Jew!

by CalebInFloroda in

because on another thread questions about just what the hell jews believe kept taking us off topic, i decided to start this new one.

that's why, as you will notice, it has that new thread smell.

i will do my best to give thorough and concise answers, but be warned: i do not take myself very seriously.

oppostate

At this point we are having a musical interlude, including two of the latest hits:
1. I Beat Dat Bitch With a Bat (rap and slow dance versions)
2. Pinot Noir (Ode to Black Penis, kosher version)

That's just wrong, misogynistic, and mental, dude!

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Lowell Mass. City Manager Says The JWs Are Welcome Anytime For Their Conventions!

by minimus in

jw
friends

as a matter of fact, he plans on bringing out info to the lowell city council as to how much of a positive impact the conventions were, that were held in the city.

evidently, a lot of money was brought in to the city's restaurants and lodging.. go witnesses!!!

!.

oppostate

Evidently, a lot of money was brought in to the city's restaurants and lodging.

If he only knew the WT frowns on folks going out for lunch at restaurants. When I attended there, a lot of folks were heading out at lunch time headed for the restaurants--against WT directives to not leave the premises during the day. (Either that or there were quite a few who were sick of the program and decided to go home! : - )

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Hi all, the prodigal daughter returns to JWD.

by cattails in

jw
friends

it's been four years (has it really been that long) that i haven't been on jwd.. i was back out west for a long while and i came back to new england.

just got an appartment with another sister and things are looking up.

i'm keeping under the radar and avoiding elder visits--not fully out of the kingdom hall yet.

oppostate

There are others of the ex-JW persuasion in the area as well. Maybe there will be an Apostafest up here one day. Kind of an "anti-convention." Now that would something worth attending...

I'm about two hours from Manchester, NH. A New England Apostafest would be "wicked cool" as we say around here.

Lacking that, the Free Bible Students have a convention in Gordon College, North of Boston, every year. Last year they had saved up enough money they decided to offer free rooming for the week to anyone who wanted to attend. Jim Penton, Ron Frye, Gord Coulson and several other well known ex-JW's have been there sometimes.

It would be great fun to meet others from the forum in person who are locals!

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Just an introduction

by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

just wanted to say hello since i am new to this forum.

allow myself to introduce myself.

lol.

oppostate

Now, my kids are a different story. I am determined not to lose them to the cult.

Good for you, Ricky! Insist on doing things with them that are as far away from any JW friends as possible. Peer pressure to be like other kids at the KH is strong, and the indoctrination of the young seems to be getting worse and worse.

If you have family who aren't JW's then it would be great to get closer to them and let the kids see how they can have family and friends outside the WT cult.

Stay strong, bro!

Mantente fuerte, hermano!

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MORE PROPAGANDA FROM THE CO!!

by DATA-DOG in

well, once again my "friend" has shared their notes with me from the latest co visit.

besides the usual 1914 assertions/ world getting worse all the time/ our day is the worst of all time nonsense, the co mentioned some interesting things.

number one won't surprise you.

oppostate

Progressive stacking of bricks

Terry, I loved that brick analogy.

Maybe the CO could explain how the situation of a resurrection for those who died in Sodom and Gomorrah kept changing back and forth. How is that progressive?

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How the Watchtower Screws Up Your View of Scripture

by CalebInFloroda in

while i do not argue the stand of atheism (because as a jew i find it totally logical and acceptable), i have noticed that there are odd carryover preconceptions about scripture that some hold as axiomatic about the bible (at least the hebrew texts), misconceptions that have nothing to do with the jewish scriptures themselves.. so regardless of what you may think of scripture, whether you believe it is of g-d or not, i thought some of you might enjoy a reference to see how much the watchtower teaching on scripture might still be influencing the conclusions you are making today...at least about the tanakh.

jews read their texts acknowledging the following:.

1. no scriptural concept of original sin.

oppostate

You too wound up about things and need to chilax. You are splitting hairs and reading things into my comments that are not there and far from my intentions.

Ayuh! I'm too wound up, and in need of healing like Ben Harper wrote and Marvin sang it.

Jews come in all different shapes and sizes, you can't just ask a Jew because just about every single Jew has a different opinion, there's secular Jews, and reformed Jews, and progressive reformed Jews, conservative Jews, agnostic Jews, constrictivist Jews, marxist Jews, atheist Jews, and Orthodox Jews, and even Ultra-Orthodox Jews--How do you expect to make headway with your individual point of view if other Jews would argue tooth and nail about things you say?

How about re-titling your "new" thread WISH YOU KNEW? ASK "ME", CALEB.

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Hi Everyone...

by Adewale in

hi there, my name is adewale!

internet marketer & online entrepreneur, a fervid and easy going blogger at 70mack.co .

i have passion specially concerning things that concern technology!

oppostate

flagging it!

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A Day at the Circus--or is it A Day with the Dubs?

by FreeGirl2006 in

i recently was at the hospital visiting a dfd relative having her first baby.

a little background: baby mama and daddy are dfd for having sex.

thankfully they have not rushed into marriage because of the little package that has come along 9 months after their "transgression.

oppostate

Good to hear the baby and mama are doing great, and it's really nice they had you there for support.

he just went and made an a**hole of himself in front of most of the family and nursing staff by saying over and over again that a broken femur (which he has had) hurts far worse than child birth (cause he would know?).

I would have whispered very sternly to him that if he didn't shut up about it I'd break his other femur myself if he continued making an ar$e of himself by saying that. (I would also have stepped and ground down his big toe to punctuate this message, while continuing to smile quite broadly : - )

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Hi all, the prodigal daughter returns to JWD.

by cattails in

jw
friends

it's been four years (has it really been that long) that i haven't been on jwd.. i was back out west for a long while and i came back to new england.

just got an appartment with another sister and things are looking up.

i'm keeping under the radar and avoiding elder visits--not fully out of the kingdom hall yet.

oppostate

Hi, Catttails. Welcome back.

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How the Watchtower Screws Up Your View of Scripture

by CalebInFloroda in

while i do not argue the stand of atheism (because as a jew i find it totally logical and acceptable), i have noticed that there are odd carryover preconceptions about scripture that some hold as axiomatic about the bible (at least the hebrew texts), misconceptions that have nothing to do with the jewish scriptures themselves.. so regardless of what you may think of scripture, whether you believe it is of g-d or not, i thought some of you might enjoy a reference to see how much the watchtower teaching on scripture might still be influencing the conclusions you are making today...at least about the tanakh.

jews read their texts acknowledging the following:.

1. no scriptural concept of original sin.

oppostate

I don't believe Christianity is pagan. It's origins are Jewish.

Earlier you said:

It is pagan to base your beliefs and religion on so-called sacred texts.

Is not Christianity based on the OT and NT are those not sacred texts?

JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES ARE ACTING LIKE PAGANS WHEN THEY USE THE DIVINE NAME. (all caps yours Caleb)

I would grant you that JW religion is cultish, but it is a Christian cult. They teach faith in one God and in Jesus as the Christ (Messiah). Does that not make them Christians? I don't believe they are acting like pagans. They aren't acting like Orthodox Jews, but Evangelists and other denominations use the Name in worship and preaching, does that make them pagans? I think you're exaggerating the pagan thing a bit much.

In the Torah the Name is used by His people often. The exclamation Hallelujah has Jah in it. It showed up in most Hebrew names Netanyahu, Yeshayahu, Yirmiyahu, Matthiyahu (called Theophoric names). They also named some places with the Name such as YHWH-YIREH, YHWH-NISI. Heck, it's even used in greeting one another in the OT.

The abstaining from mentioning the name is a later tradition, and not typical of OT worship.

And I've never quoted from the Jewish Encylopedia. In fact I can't remember ever using that as a resource.

Earlier you said:

Wikipedia states under “Firmament”: “The firmament is the sky, conceived as a vast solid dome. According to the Genesis creation narrative, God created the firmament to separate the "waters above" the earth from those below. The word is anglicized from Latin firmamentum, which appears in the Vulgate, a late fourth-century Latin translation of the Bible.”

This from the same Wikipedia article on Firmament:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament

Like most ancient peoples, the Hebrews believed the sky was a solid dome with the Sun, Moon andstars embedded in it.[7] According to The Jewish Encyclopedia:

So you're quoting from Wikipedia, and it plainly quotes from the Jewish Encyclopedia. I guess you may not have realized this. Either that or you're putting me on.

But the rest you have written may be right. I will leave it to the others here and my Creator to decide if I am a hypocrite.

Well perhaps hypocrite was too rash a term. I took it that you meant what you said (earlier) and if you say one thing and then do another that's hypocrisy.

But you actually denied saying what I understood you to say, and that made me wonder. Maybe there was an assumption on my part and I should not have taken you at your word the first time.

So if you meant no hypocrisy I retract my statement and offer my apology for the rash accusation.

However, there is ample room to see a discrepancy in the things you wrote at first and how you write things later, (as you one can see from your quoted words above).