Posts by oppostate

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Theocratic Ministry School . . . is still there AND longer?

by warehouse in

so i made a timeline based on the leaked letter, it is as follows:.

edit: updated chart with color, because the html version was crap.

so i know i might be crazy, but is the theocratic school still there, just called apply yourself to field ministry?

oppostate

Warehouse said: "There you go. This is for all the idiots who swore up and down and sang songs that the ministry school was gone."

I'm sure all of us "idiots" appreciate your input.

And, I thank you for being the imbecile who can remind us that the WT likes to change names and times and little else. Maybe you can work your way up to idiot yourself, and join the new Life and Ministry Un-school (formerly known as Theocratic Ministry School) so you can let us know how you like the new dumbed down re-format.

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My Mother Died Two Weeks Ago

by Perry in

jw
friends

none of my jehovah's witness relatives called to tell me or my family.

just found out this morning.

oppostate

I'm very sorry to hear of your loss and the way you found out. There is no excuse on their part for such lack of sympathy and compassion.

My prayers and thoughts are with you and those near you that can offer good support during this time of trials.

May you find peace and comfort, knowing you are in the minds of many here, who have offered their condolences, as I do also.

With deep sympathy.

Oppo

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Is disfellowshipping a loving arrangement?

by mana11 in

i read this post, i voted and the ones saying it is a loving arrangement is over 68%, i am mind blown - what fool can think it is a loving arrangement.

lets teach them that is it not thought of as loving...your chance to let these people know if dis-fellowshipping is a loving arrangement!..

http://www.jehovahs-witness.org/is-disfellowshipping-a-loving-arrangement/.

oppostate

Faithful JW's believe it is because they've been told to believe it is, and they do, as faithful JW's would... and round, and round we go.

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Updates

by Cthulhu in

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friends

greetings!.

oppostate

setadpu?

Sey, ytrap no. Ytrap ydrah!

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WT Society SEC Records : Hedge Funds, Cayman Islands, Financial Losses - Links

by flipper in

so my wife and i were curious so i researched some financial links and found records indicating that the wt society has been operating at a loss since the year 2012. as you read the links it shows a loss of 10 million $$$ in 2012, about 16 million $$$ in 2013, and a whopping loss of 56 million $$$ in 2014 - where the expenditures exceeded the revenues for each of those years in the amount i've mentioned.

also there is a link on this same website with the sec records indicating that the wt society and it's representatives funneled 40 million $$$$ into hedge funds in the cayman islands as early as 2007. if you look online on other sites you can see evidence that indicates the wt society attended hedge fund conferences to look into more shadiness in 2011 and isn't it curious that by 2012 the wt society started showing losses.

anyway here is the link : https://www.watchtowerlies.com/the_watchtower_revenue.html .. feel free to check this link out and other links on that link indicating the cayman island connection.

oppostate

All I see, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is the Canadian Branch declared a loss on paper because they transferred their money to HQ.

Which was also the case with the Australian Branch sending donations/contributions to the U.S.

So what is Worldwide HQ spending the money on? Warwick? Hedge funds? I don't see where that much cash is going.

Their forgiving of KH loans we know is false. To say you forgive a loan then take whatever they have saved up in a bank and on top of that demand a monthly payment equal or above what they were paying before is just lying pure and simple.

If you show a loss because you "forgave" those loans then that's another lie.

I think they're just lying and making the R&F panic thinking that Momma WT doesn't have enough money to pay her bills.

I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't understand how they're spending it all. Where's all the money going now that they had plenty of before?

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Are Circuit Overseers next?

by Londo111 in

last year saw the elimination of the district overseer...and circuit overseers now must retire at 70. how long until the circuit overseer is no more?

of course, the role might still exist, they would simply not get paid.

they would have to care for their own expenses.

oppostate

there is no reason a CO can't be an elder from a local congregation. I've seen this many times.

@PoN

That's what the HQ discussed with Spanish speaking Branch reps. A sort of City Overseer / Region Overseer arrangement. The info was leaked before everything had coalesced into the current situation with letting the DO's go and making the CO's have more responsibilities.

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All It Takes Is ONE!

by John Aquila in

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friends

ive been reading all these posts about bethelites and special pioneers being kicked out in the street and being forced to get a job to provide for themselves..

and im trying to put myself in their situation and feel the emotions that must be going through their mind.

what if my wife and i both dropped out of school to pioneer and got married at 18. and what if we were very faithful in listening to everything the organization says.

oppostate

I know what your going to say they aren't children,
but we are all children of God at least according to the Borg.

No, Sabin, actually the WT does not say that.

w87 3/15, p. 15, par. 17 - - “These with earthly prospects are declared righteous and enjoy peace with God even now, not as sons, but as‘friends of God,’ as was Abraham.”
w12 7/15, p. 28, par. 7 - - “Although Jehovah has declared his anointed ones righteous as sons and the other sheep righteous as friends on the basis of Christ’s ransom sacrifice…”

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Question - thoughts on explaining your fading to teachers?

by elderINewton in

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friends

weird/odd question, but with our family fading, and our daughter in school how or should one approach teachers with this?

our child is a little too young to understand why we are fading, but it proves challenging in school as they have been, well brainwashed, to say i shouldn't do that etc... .

i don't like explaining anything to teachers about the fade, etc.

oppostate

Teachers will keep in confidence something you've shared with them privately, just make sure you've also talked to the principal and they know you have done that. Breaking confidence is a big no-no.

Just explain yourself to them and they'll back you up in your decision to "normalize" your children's experience. If you have this talk with them you may just be able to open their eyes to the harmful effects of the wt cult.

But definitely talk to the principal first and let them know that any concerns you share with them about your situation are to be considered confidential.

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Area Man Forced Into Jehovah's Witness Protection Program

by Watchtower-Free in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huvagg49bpm.

oppostate

Kkkkkkkkkkk.

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Tired of the truth... Tired of doubting

by Deltawave in

i'm reaching out here, i've known ttatt for about 3-4 years now.

sadly when i first grasped it i had a total mental breakdown as i was a hard core firm to the core pioneer and 110% believer of my faith.!

now nearly 2years on after my breakdown i still have to attend to please my jw wife.

oppostate

I'm in a very similar situation, went through the stages of grieving as I learned the TTATT. My wife is still very loyal to the WT, perhaps even more so as I drew away from taking an active part in meetings. I still go to Sunday talks, Assemblies and an occasional mid-week meeting, but I find it very hard to listen to the mind numbing nonsense, the only way I've found to manage is bring my kindle or the ipad and either search online or re-read portions of CoC and ISoCF by Ray Franz, and Jim Penton's superb JW history books, also other ex-jw books I can get on amazon.com

Keeping the peace at home is important to me. My wife is a kind and very compassionate person but the cult personality imposes the judgments and "corporate-ocratic" mindset of the WT religion. I've been in for 30 yrs. so mostly those I know and feel close to are either active JW's or ex-JW's. It's a tough situtation, but it's getting easier to deal with the one's still under the mind-control, as long as I steer the conversation towards non-JW topics.