Returning to the truth.

by Justmeok2 in

hi i am just starting to rebuild my relationship with jehovah.

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i would like to hear from people who may be or have been in similar situations and now want to dedicate their lives to him..

oppostate

A personal relationship with God is important for a person of faith. I truly believe that.

There are two books I'd recommend you read by someone who used to be in the Governing Body, he passed away in 2010, but there are youtube videos of him talking about his books online. His name was Raymond (Ray) Franz, and he was the nephew of Fred Franz, also of the Governing Body and President of the WT Society.

"Crisis of Conscience" his first book lays out very clearly how those in control of the 0rganization have since it's beginning made grievous decisions affecting the lives of thousands upon thousands, turning meek people of faith into servants for their own purpose and profit. Joseph Rutherford was in my mind the worst of these due to his boozing, swearing and womanizing ways which you can find out about in older discussion threads on this forum.

"In Search of Christian Freedom" his second book was for me much more up-building, with reasoning points on the accuracy of WT teachings and presenting excellent Bible research on what it means to be a Christian and free from the influence of men who would hijack one's faith for their own purposes.

These two books, especially the second one, will help you, I believe, to strengthen your relationship with Jehovah and help you appreciate the role of Jesus in helping us develop a personal relationship with our Father in heaven.

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Pale Emperor Seems To Have Developed A Fetish

by pale.emperor in

dont worry, this is safe for work... :).

remember when we were jws and we were told not to "model ourselves after the world"?

meaning no tattoos, no non-approved hairstyles, clothing to be not too tight, not too short etc etc etc?

oppostate

Emo/Goth girls are a dream!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvisDl18Byc

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LDS leader James J. Hamula excommunicated

by oppostate in

lds leader james j. hamula excommunicated.

http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/faith/lds-leader-james-j-hamula-excommunicated/article_bc1f3f66-b315-5f2d-bf6e-473eef082209.html.

in a rare action taken by the senior leadership of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints, a disciplinary council was held for general authority seventy james j. hamula, and he has been excommunicated from the lds church..

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LDS leader James J. Hamula excommunicated

http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/faith/lds-leader-james-j-hamula-excommunicated/article_bc1f3f66-b315-5f2d-bf6e-473eef082209.html

In a rare action taken by the senior leadership of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a disciplinary council was held for General Authority Seventy James J. Hamula, and he has been excommunicated from the LDS Church.

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WT shooting themselves in the foot, or rather the mouth, finally

by oppostate in

"stop the presses!".

awesome blog article at bereans.net !.

http://beroeans.net/2017/08/07/stop-the-presses/.

oppostate

Are the rank and file j-dumbs smart enough to put any of this together?

No.

The average rant-and-file JW may not get it, heck I didn't really get the importance of the 1995 change when that was going on and I was fully mentally submerged into the doctrinal cesspool of the WT.

But the JW who is prime for waking up will grab on to this, will see past the dissonance and it will be the proverbial straw that broke the camels back. For me, this would have been a big shake up and would have started my waking up--there must be others too for whom this would have a similar effect.

Every year there are new JW's who are prime for waking up. Everyone is different and those things that trigger a wake-up on one may not do so to another.

I think this has the chance to wake up a lot of JW's. The UN did it for many, the 607vs.586 did it for others, and reading Crisis of Conscience did it for many. I really think that some are just primed for this to help them wake up.

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WT shooting themselves in the foot, or rather the mouth, finally

by oppostate in

"stop the presses!".

awesome blog article at bereans.net !.

http://beroeans.net/2017/08/07/stop-the-presses/.

oppostate

I'm not sure if I understand #2 above....

Rutherford taught the OT doctrine by saying that Jehu asking Jonadab if he was with him he could ride in his chariot, Jonadab was willing to follow Jehu so in Rutherfords mind this was an anti-type situation for the Anointed Class (Jehu) and the Jonadab Class (followers).

Since the current GB has said that anti-typing shouldn't be used unless clearly stated in the Scriptures they are turning away one of the pillars of Rutherford's doctrine.

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WT shooting themselves in the foot, or rather the mouth, finally

by oppostate in

"stop the presses!".

awesome blog article at bereans.net !.

http://beroeans.net/2017/08/07/stop-the-presses/.

oppostate

"Stop the Presses!"

Awesome blog article at Bereans.net !

http://beroeans.net/2017/08/07/stop-the-presses/

The WT hierarchy just shot themselves in the foot, or rather their oracle mouth, and it could blow the brains off their Other Sheep doctrine. Maybe we'll see further clarification on this "lapsus linguae" as they try to reassemble their revisionist, doctrinal undoing.

One commenter by the username of Eleasar summarizes it this way:

The teaching of the “Great Crowd” is based on 4 fundamental elements.
1. Where do they stand in the temple? (See Revelation 7:15) Naos means the inner sanctuary as based on the 1st May WT 2002 Question from readers. This means that the “Great Crowd” location needs to be revisited. On the understanding of the Spiritual temple (see w72 12/1 pp. 709-716 “The One True Temple at Which to Worship”, w96 7/1 pp. 14-19 Jehovah’s Great Spiritual Temple and w96 7/1 pp. 19-24 The Triumph of True Worship Draws Near) The last article has the point corrected in the 2002 Question from Readers.
2. Jehu and Jonadab teaching of type and antitype based on the 1934 WT 1st August on “His Kindness” no longer applies based on the FDS rule as stated in the bible. This is implicit and not explicitly stated.
3. Cities of Refuge teaching of type and antitype teachings based on the 15th August 1934 “His Kindness Part 2” is no longer valid. This is an explicit statement as we can see in the November 2017 edition and you have covered this in your article.
4. The teaching of John 10:16 is the only one remaining and that is disproved scripturally by Ephesians 2; 11-19.
I make it 3 out of the 4 points have now shown to be in error. The 4th point can be reasoned contextually and will fall.

Since Rutherford based his Other Sheep doctrine on the Cities of Refuge being the prophetic Biblical type for the teaching that the Other Sheep are earth bound subjects of God's Kingdom, by the GB's writing committee admitting that the cities of refuge are not the OT in anti-typical fleece covering, as previously taught, they have left themselves with no published support for the Other Sheep doctrine. They've cut their feet from under themselves on this doctrine. They've shorn the sheep, they've fleeced their doctrine.

The OT doctrine, and the love of pandas and pet lions, may well be firmly ingrained in the minds of current JW publishers, but they've now opened themselves to a doctrinal showdown where a logical disproving of the doctrine could cause a "look who's behind the curtain" shock in a meltdown of cognitive dissonance.

What will happen next?

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"Even if this wasn't the truth, I would still stay. This is the best life to live..."

by HereIgo in

i was recently told this by a jw family member when trying to get through to them.

does this quote indicate that maybe such ones have considered that the jw's may not have the truth after all?

or is that just my wishful thinking?

oppostate

Living Translation
So God will cause them to be greatly deceived, and they will believe these lies.

2 Thessalonians 2:11

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similarities of WT and North Koria

by yoko N in

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oppostate

Not mysogyny, the mom turned into a pillar of salt.

North Korea is also very male centric like the b0rg.

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I think it's possible for a change of trend in JW growth

by Chook in

just like after decades of memorial partakers declining and now reversed.

this information age might reverse the trend of jw membership.

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oppostate

I think the GB knows the numbers so they have been amassing billions for an endowment strong eggnest to keep the b0rg sustainable.

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Paranoid why the coordinator's wife is soft shunning me

by Isambard Crater in

jw
friends

for the past six months the coordinator's wife has definitely been avoiding me, turning her back or walking away when i walk in her direction, giving me a stare at other times.

if i try to make casual conversation with her, she literally walks away or just looks through me until someone else comes to talk to her.. i can only think of one reason, which is that she may have seen me give a car ride to a disfellowshipped person months ago.

i mean, it would be totally random if she happened to spot me on this one short journey, but it's possible.

oppostate

This has the unpleasant aroma of rumors being shared about you behind your back.

She just happens to be a very self-righteous WT automaton who deems it her duty to treat you as marked, judged and sentenced with the spiritual capital punishment of shunning.

You've been deemed contaminated and infectious and so she shuns you like a leper.

Here's a shunning antidote:

The best response is to go out of your way to be in her face with pleasant conversation starters every single time you can get within speaking distance of her, and if she's to far to hear you then make friendly gestures of hello, wave madly like you like her a ton, and if she's out of sight, tell others how much you like her and that you're best buddies and just about soul-mates.

This way the coals you're heaping upon her head will burn with the intensity of the fires of Gehenna.

Be happy, be merry and make her life a living hell through kindness. She will hardly be able to withstand the shunning antidote.

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