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NWT 2012 Revision - Your Suggestions Please

by cofty in

so if its true that a new 2012 version of the new world translation is to be released at this year's dc what changes do you think they will have made?.

don't forget your square brackets for interpolations.. .

"this good news of the kingdom will be preached to all the [developed] world and then the end will come" - matt 24:14.

oppostate

I don't think the new NWT will have much in the way of re-wording... Just the same old - same old - NWT minus square brackets repackaged with a little bling eye candy!

Sometime ago ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/224140/1/So-wonderful-little-and-other-punctuation )

I mentioned these new blinged out NWT versions that the GB and some preferred travelling overseers were sporting last year at the District Convention. (There be pictures on Facebook!)

The Bibles versions they carried were a bit fatter because they included the appendices of the reference bible but in the deluxe leatherette size.

Maybe the marketing guys at Bethel decided that grey and silver may appeal more (than the black or maroon gold edged) to the ever more elderly and passing away generation that was promised to already be in a paradise earth.

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2012 Convention Releases

by garlic81 in

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post 51 of 52. since 3/27/2009.

google_ad_section_start i can't verify the authenticity of this information as i have not personally attended.

however this is what is posted on another site.. friday:.

oppostate

Sometime ago I mentioned the new blinged out NWT versions that the GB and some preferred travelling overseers were seen carrying last year at the District Convention.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/224140/1/So-wonderful-little-and-other-punctuation

The Bibles versions they carried were a bit fatter because they included the appendices of the reference bible but in the deluxe leatherette size.

Apart from the missing square brackets I didn't see any changes nor did I have much time to look for any, just a brief thumb through, but the quality feel of the leather like cover is much softer and the gilding is silver not golden.

That's the only new version of the NWT that I've seen around and wouldn't be surprised if that's the new version release. The same old - same old - repackaged with a little bling eye candy!

Maybe the marketing guys at Bethel decided that grey and silver may appeal more to the ever more elderly and passing away generation that was promised to already be in a paradise earth.

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Coded Phone number for Kingdom Hall attendence.

by Joshnaz in

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i just learned the the kingdom halls have a coded phone number for listening in on the sunday meetings.

for my area the phone number is 623-748-1908. when it asks you for the code dial 623293. you can enter the number of listeners and you are counted in attendance.

i just wanted to let everyone here know and see what everyone's thought's were..

oppostate

the pin numbers from KHCONF are usually the area code followed by three more numbers.

There's an administrator pin that establishes the conference.

There's also an attendant pin that gives you the total number of listeners.

Then there's two other pins, one for listening only and one for listening and commenting.

If they change the listening pin they usually don't change the other pins.

It may take some time and repeated dialing, but you could guess at the last three numbers after the area code and get in on the conference with luck.

The local administrator of the account can log into https://report.khconf.com/

and see who called in and for how long. If they see any strange numbers, like

numbers outside the area code they'll try to do a reverse look up to see who the

phone belongs to, and if they can't find out they will discuss the need to change

the pin number, then publishers who want to listen in have to call the Coordinator

for the new pin before the meeting. That's the standard procedure locally.

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Got my Privileges Removed today, any advice?

by mrbunyrabit in

sooo i was a ministerial servant (omg a ministerial servant on this site!?

you apostate!!!

) yea yea i just wanted to see what other people think and whatever, coz i had a few questions myself, (butttt its not like i was about to start throwing them with rocks and stuff, they arent that bad).

oppostate

Send a letter telling them that humility forces you to request they no longer keep you on the list as a Ministerial Servant.

Say that you've been overwhelmed by circumstances and feeling depressed about things.

Explain in few words that you appreciate their help and counsel but it's something you need to work on.

Thank them for their concern.

Then celebrate your freedom from slavery to a hierarchical system that denigrates individuality.

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1966 Book : Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God

by binadub in

somewhat of a turning point occurred for me in 1966 when life everlasting in freedom of the sons of god book was released at the assemblies that year.

this you may know was the book that calculated 1975 would end 6000 years of humanity on earth possibly leaving the "thousand years" of revelation to complete the 7000-year "creative day.

" jehovah's witnesses jumped on this implication as "new light" with enormous enthusiasm.

oppostate

Well, living sequestered in the cloistered life of Brooklyn Bethel may have lead to wild and speculative fantasies and titilating fetishes.

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I too have been charged with apostasy! Stunned.

by FinchAndWeston in

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my wife and i got a letter sent to me stating we are being called before a judical hearing to discuss allegations of apostasy!

we haven't gone to the meeting in 5 years.

are the jw's on a witchhunt lately?

oppostate

Here's a DA letter that was posted on JWN some time ago. What do you think of it? Would it help? Would the hounders get off your back if they received something like this?

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/219251/1/Letter-of-DA-from-attorney-to-Elders-becomes-gossip-fodder-Society-Elders-culpable

This law firm has been retained by "X" to remove his/her good name
from your roster and all records on account of his/her wishes to no
longer be a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses religion. Per request
of my client, this letter will serve as "X's" formal notification of
his/her intent.
It is of great concern that it is your common practice to make formal
announcements of this sort public in an effort to stop family and
friends from ever associating with him/her again, despite the fact
s/he desires this decision for his/her own person only. With this
concern it is of great importance that you understand defamation of
character is a serious offence punishable under both state and federal
law. Therefore it is this firm's demand that any public or private
discussion that demeans the good name of "X" either in the near or
distant future will be met with legal action.
As with all cases, our goal is satisfaction of both parties if at all
possible. We trust you understand that dissatisfaction for our client
can only be experienced by purposeful, hurtful and unnessary action on
your part.

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Any other ABENAKI tribe Native American descendants here on JWN?

by oppostate in

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it's been my experience that many witnesses i've known are of native american background and eventually they phase out of the wt's grasp, but not without going through some hard times and deep depression.

several dear brothers i know are out, some faded, one inactive, all going through the same patterns.

and why does it seem more prevalent among those with a percentage of native american descent?.

oppostate

It's been my experience that many Witnesses I've known are of Native American background and eventually they phase out of the WT's grasp, but not without going through some hard times and deep depression. Several dear brothers I know are out, some faded, one inactive, all going through the same patterns. Why? And why does it seem more prevalent among those with a percentage of Native American descent?

Are there any other ABENAKI tribe Native American descendants here on JWN... and if so what's been your experience?

If you are descended of another tribe or personally know of some please share your experience.

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Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Changes

by Simon in

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(the david bowie song in case you're wondering).

there seems to be a lot of talk and speculation about the changes that are coming at the next district conventions.

there have certainly been quite a few articles and talks (esp.

oppostate

Yes!

The nu-lite is that the end of this system is now no longer "imminent" it has now been raised to "immediate" in God's timetable according to WT calculations.

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Since the early WTCD doesn't have older publication

by thecrushed in

i didn't ask why they don't because their own literature makes them out as horrible frauds!

my question is how do you get a hold of stuff like the "finished mystery" "the divine plan of the ages" and other pertinent false doctrine that has been swept under the rug and locked in the coffers at wt headquarters?

i feel so helpless because if i show my wife info on the net she will just write it off as apostate and altered like we have all been trained to think.

oppostate

This web site has a lot of the old publications in English and some in Spanish including WTs and Awakes.

http://bibliotecajw.blogspot.com/2011/11/antiguas-publicaciones-de-los-testigos.html

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Laptop (?) being used in field service - July 15 WT

by Gayle in

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wt out on jw.org now,,shows front page laptop being used on field service call along with sign language.. will jws soon be bringing a laptop for all door to door presentations in the future?

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oppostate

The ASL groups use DVD players in sought out door to door service. Not Notebook PCs.

Rather than a Notebook PC the device in question in that photo is more like one of their DVD players.