Well, since my great-grand-father was born after Freddie Franz I guess we're technically in the same WT generation by some Twilight Zone reasoning from WT writers, whose bright idea by the way, the GeeBee members just love.
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Overlapping Generation/GB/Doug Sanderson
by Simon Morley inmy apologies of this topic has been covered already - please redirect me if it has:.
current belief is:.
watchtower (study edition), april 15th, 2010 issue, pages 27-29:.
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Everything seems to be changing... why not birthdays?
by StarTrekAngel inif we look at all doctrines, we see an overall effort to conserve unity and control.
- assuming most birthdays, if allowed, would probably be oriented to children, then that means 40 celebrations per year.
so all in all, this give a total potential attendance to a birthday of 30 families (120 attendance / 4 family members).
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@punkofniceDefinitely! If the GB wants kids' ice-cream money how much more the money that would have gone for b'day presents.
Bunch of greedy money grabbers that they are!
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Music buffs.Here we go again. List you're all-time favorite Guitarists
by flipper inhello ya'll.
was just listening to great guitar music from some of my favorites.
who are your all time favorites?
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wt and charity
by zeb ini know of no charitable work by wt.
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hm of the r&f live in poor situations who could be helped, raised out of their situation using the vast resources of the wt.. the wt could run job search programs to help unemployed get work.. it could run its own medical insurance in countries where such is prohibitively expensive.. " but if anyone has the worlds goods and sees a brother in need yet closes his hand against him how does gods love abide in him?
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oppostate
Obviously whatever reference in the Bible having to do with helping out your neighbor means giving them a chance to accept WT literature.
This "witnessing" fulfills the need to keep consciences quiet while serving the WT leadership.
The WT writers don't seem to have any problem with hijacking Jesus' teachings and parables to have them serve as propaganda for the WT field service work of knocking on mostly not-at-home's doors.
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Anybody have any experience with this?
by stillin inan elderly sister passed away recently.
family came to her memorial service from all over the country.
some of them, including grown-up, disfellowshipped children of hers, also came.
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Not at a funeral but at a JW wedding the father of the bride was "allowed" to attend the ceremony at the hall. He couldn't walk his daughter down the aisle or the couple would have to find another place to hold the wedding and most of the guests wouldn't show up because of the father being DF'ed.
Later in the day when guests were invited to go on to the reception hall, a nice rented place outside of town, the father showed up and was immediately "stopped" at the parking lot by some of the friends of the groom who were asked to be on the lookout for him (and his new wife who was a "worldly person"). She could go into the place but he was asked to remain outside. He said he was going in anyway.
The place was very nice. The groom's family had put out a lot of bucks to rent the place and the decorations and meal were excellent. I opted to go for a little air outside while my wife and some of the gals had a hen session inside.
So, that's where I saw these friends of the groom blocking the entrance with their bodies and telling the father he'd have to wait a few minutes. One of them went in and told the groom, and that was pretty much the end of the reception for a lot of the invited guests since they were told that a DF'ed person was going to try to come in and if their conscience said they should leave then they should.
The father explained that he wasn't going to stay long. Just to come in and wish them well, give them a present they'd brought. He wasn't even expecting to stay for food or drink.
Well, it turns out the father didn't come into the reception hall. He was very upset, visibly so, his hands shaking and he seemed on the verge of tears. He was clearly not a violent person and it hurt him deeply that he was treated this way. The daughter came outside. They walked off into the parking lot among the cars together.
My wife wanted to leave saying that it wouldn't be appropriate to stay there if a DF'ed person was allowed in the reception place as we shouldn't even eat a meal with DF'ed persons.
I started to explain to her that the DF'ed person was the father and that it seemed he wasn't going to come in after all. But, to no avail.
As we got into our car I saw the daughter in tears. The father trying to reach out to her with a pleading expression on his face and his daughter swatting off his hand and looking away.
It was one of those moments that stick out in my mind as being part of my waking up to the reality of all the hurt this JW religion has caused families due to it's DF'ing policies.
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A Total Waste of Time "In The Field"
by OnTheWayOut inso i am walking down the street in a spanish neighborhood and two men, obviously jw's, are standing between houses writing furiously on their tiny slips.
i am nearly a block away approaching and they just kept writing the whole time i walked up.
i finally arrive to pass them and they are still both writing.
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In Spanish speaking congregations in New England, we have to make a list of Spanish or Portuguese sounding names to call on. The Secretary and a helper draft up the lists and divide the names and addresses into territories. Call calling on non-listed households is very seldom called unless one knows for a fact that the householder is Latino or Spanish speaking.
Getting references from other Latinos in the community is one of the best ways of building lists of names. It used to be that phone books were the place to find Latinos. But not anymore, with the over abundance of mobile phones the land lines are dwindling.
Another way is to go to a Mexican Restaurant or other restaurant you know the kitchen crew is Latino, and make contact. Once you have a chance to make a visit on one of them you have a way in to get info on the whole group that works there and even other restaurants.
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Why would anyone want to join jovie world?
by Doltologist ini can understand why someone who was born of jovie parents would want to leave jovie world.
i can see why someone who had joined jovie world would want to leave.
after all, why would you want to stay in such an evil institution?.
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I prefer to call it JW religion, or JW organization. And, I still refer to "The Society" when talking to other JW's so that there's no doubt I'm referring to the HQ of JW's--most elders and rank & file now call this "The Branch."
For me the appeal was that they were under ban in the country I was living in under a dictator. Preaching work was illegal, and they were thrown in with other government undesirable religions, which were usually just called the "Protestants" (pronounced with a half raised lip as if smelling something foul).
The WT literature talked a lot about God and how He had a wonderful purpose for mankind. I was suckered in and swallowed their whole line, hook and sinker. I thought it was the Truth--I was convinced of it until tragic circumstances burst the dream bubble. Now I'm still in due to having family that is very faithful to the WT.
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WT is shorting literature orders by congregation with a problem contributing enough for literature $3500 just for mags
by oppostate inat our meeting last night there was a talk about having run out of magazines for the last three months.
it's expected this will continue to happen.
the "branch" has not sent the requested number of magazines.
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Maybe the young elder is using pre-common core new math!
He clearly stated $3,500 (thirty-five hundred dollars) not three hundred and fifty. He did call it our literature order, so that may be saying he also counted in the book and new Bible orders.
Also the long pause he gave in mid talk letting the figures set in may have been triggered by his own subconscious re-figuring the total amounts. Whatever the case, he came across as blaming publishers for not using the literature to best advantage and that if some feel short-changed they should blame those who have extras and let them accumulate at home gathering dust.
It is so surreal how the Truth of the WT becomes a separate reality. The figures mean nothing, the individual opinions mean nothing. Everything finds its meaning in whatever "The Branch" says it means.
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WT is shorting literature orders by congregation with a problem contributing enough for literature $3500 just for mags
by oppostate inat our meeting last night there was a talk about having run out of magazines for the last three months.
it's expected this will continue to happen.
the "branch" has not sent the requested number of magazines.
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@3rdgen.
It's hilarious for sure. Apparently this is a pattern that's been going on for the past three months and maybe the CO is the one that "busted" the elders' b@lls about it during his last visit.
Also as in the other thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/292580006/our-hall-asking-money
I believe the donation "pledge" slips amounted to a way much higher amount than it's ever been contributed locally. Instead of adjusting the amount to reality we were constantly reminded on mid-week meetings dealing with congregation accounts that we were not meeting our "budget amounts". Yet our pledged budget amounts should have been perceived as hopeful dreams rather than a realistic amount. So the last two weeks of May we had another "pledge" slip exercise.
When the number of pledges doesn't add up to the actual donations, and when the number of placed magazines is way over the amount of magazines received for the month, it follows that any reported numbers should be seen as mere high end hopeful estimations without foundation in accurate amounts.
If publishers don't tell the truth about how much they can contribute and how many magazines they've placed, can we trust the number of field service hours, book placements and studies are reported every month?
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WT is shorting literature orders by congregation with a problem contributing enough for literature $3500 just for mags
by oppostate inat our meeting last night there was a talk about having run out of magazines for the last three months.
it's expected this will continue to happen.
the "branch" has not sent the requested number of magazines.
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@Paul.
The strange thing is he didn't actually say what he seemed to be saying.
Basically, he said there's a shortage. We know. We all know. The elders are aware of the problem.
And then, by the way, if you catch my drift and you want to help instead of complain about running out then don't take so many or contribute more.
The idea that we haven't received the "full order" shipment goes nicely with the May video saying that the WT needs more contributions. This just seems, to me, to be a ploy to get the older folks to contribute even more.