Posts by oppostate

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P.S. To All members of the Worldwide Order of Special Full-Time Servants of Jehovah’s Witnesses

by The Searcher in

based on the org's doctrine regarding john 5:28, 29 "do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment", namely - .

that "those resurrected to life on earth will be judged "according to their deeds" during judgment day", then be prepared to lock up your house, possessions, & daughters during christ's 1000 years reign, because the "faithful slave" says that evil people will be judged for doing evil things after they are resurrected and living in the new world!.

that doesn't sound like a paradise to me!

oppostate

The Searcher: "then be prepared to lock up your house, possessions, & daughters during Christ's 1000 years reign, because the "faithful slave" says that evil people will be judged for doing evil things after they are resurrected and living in the new world!
That doesn't sound like a paradise to me! How about you?"

That's a great reasoning point Searcher. The WT doctrine also doesn't go along with Matthew 25:34 "Then the King will say to those on His right, 'Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in; 36 naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.'"
If Jesus is judging people on what they did for the littlest one of his brothers during their lives now, how is it they'll be judged again during the thousand year reign? It makes no sense.
But I think the WT tries to get away with saying that judgement day is for those alive and that the judgement during the thousand years is for the ones resurrected. < http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201001/what-is-judgment-day/ >
I think their doctrine clashes with scriptures such as 2 Corinthians 5:10 "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad."
This Scripture in 2 Corinthians seems to teach that what we all do in this life, while in the body, is the basis for being judged.

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Faced with plummeting ratings JWbroadcasting tries a spin off combo show with 'Shark Week'

by Watchtower-Free in

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oppostate

Or "Shark Tank" tum-tum-tum-tum

I can just about hear Mr. Wonderful saying: "Look Tony it seems profittable and I like profitable but even for ME, it's just way too immoral a religious scam! You're getting a big zero from me because you're a greedy bastard! That's it, you're dead to me!"

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JWs With A Financial Interest In The Org

by JW_Rogue in

through personal experiences which i'd rather not relate because it would give away my identity i have come to a realization.

many brothers own businesses that a greatly supported by witness activities.

when local congregations need some service they will prefer to do business with a jw.

oppostate

we paid more so as to save money. If you can understand this, please explain it to me.

We pay more so the WT can get a nice cut. Working in Conventions with the rooming dept. in Administration was quite an eye opener. The freebies that hotels would grant the WT in free rooms and meals was just obscene.

Then if a single mother with a child or two came to the desk saying she didn't have a place to stay we were always instructed to find elders in her congregation to deal with the need. Sometimes they even paid from their pockets if a room was found available.

In congregations where I've been there's always been business trouble among "the friends". One thing I've learned is to hire someone who isn't a JW to keep it all contractually pleasant and without surprises.

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Writing Committee Doesn't Understand Past, Present, & Future Tenses

by The Searcher in

the verses say one thing, the org says it means something entirely different.. (matthew 24:34) "truly i say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen.

w14 1/15 p. 31 par.

15 - "we understand that in mentioning "this generation," jesus was referring to two groups of anointed christians.

oppostate

@TheSearcher

Excellent points, when the scriptures clearly say "has" and "did" the WT insists on placing these statements as being fulfilled in the future.

These are examples of how they are still hung up on the type/anti-type nonsense of Russell, Rutherford and Second Adventists.

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Wish You Knew? Ask a Jew!

by CalebInFloroda in

because on another thread questions about just what the hell jews believe kept taking us off topic, i decided to start this new one.

that's why, as you will notice, it has that new thread smell.

i will do my best to give thorough and concise answers, but be warned: i do not take myself very seriously.

oppostate

At this point we are having a musical interlude, including two of the latest hits:
1. I Beat Dat Bitch With a Bat (rap and slow dance versions)
2. Pinot Noir (Ode to Black Penis, kosher version)

That's just wrong, misogynistic, and mental, dude!

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Lowell Mass. City Manager Says The JWs Are Welcome Anytime For Their Conventions!

by minimus in

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friends

as a matter of fact, he plans on bringing out info to the lowell city council as to how much of a positive impact the conventions were, that were held in the city.

evidently, a lot of money was brought in to the city's restaurants and lodging.. go witnesses!!!

!.

oppostate

Evidently, a lot of money was brought in to the city's restaurants and lodging.

If he only knew the WT frowns on folks going out for lunch at restaurants. When I attended there, a lot of folks were heading out at lunch time headed for the restaurants--against WT directives to not leave the premises during the day. (Either that or there were quite a few who were sick of the program and decided to go home! : - )

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Hi all, the prodigal daughter returns to JWD.

by cattails in

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friends

it's been four years (has it really been that long) that i haven't been on jwd.. i was back out west for a long while and i came back to new england.

just got an appartment with another sister and things are looking up.

i'm keeping under the radar and avoiding elder visits--not fully out of the kingdom hall yet.

oppostate

There are others of the ex-JW persuasion in the area as well. Maybe there will be an Apostafest up here one day. Kind of an "anti-convention." Now that would something worth attending...

I'm about two hours from Manchester, NH. A New England Apostafest would be "wicked cool" as we say around here.

Lacking that, the Free Bible Students have a convention in Gordon College, North of Boston, every year. Last year they had saved up enough money they decided to offer free rooming for the week to anyone who wanted to attend. Jim Penton, Ron Frye, Gord Coulson and several other well known ex-JW's have been there sometimes.

It would be great fun to meet others from the forum in person who are locals!

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Just an introduction

by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

just wanted to say hello since i am new to this forum.

allow myself to introduce myself.

lol.

oppostate

Now, my kids are a different story. I am determined not to lose them to the cult.

Good for you, Ricky! Insist on doing things with them that are as far away from any JW friends as possible. Peer pressure to be like other kids at the KH is strong, and the indoctrination of the young seems to be getting worse and worse.

If you have family who aren't JW's then it would be great to get closer to them and let the kids see how they can have family and friends outside the WT cult.

Stay strong, bro!

Mantente fuerte, hermano!

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MORE PROPAGANDA FROM THE CO!!

by DATA-DOG in

well, once again my "friend" has shared their notes with me from the latest co visit.

besides the usual 1914 assertions/ world getting worse all the time/ our day is the worst of all time nonsense, the co mentioned some interesting things.

number one won't surprise you.

oppostate

Progressive stacking of bricks

Terry, I loved that brick analogy.

Maybe the CO could explain how the situation of a resurrection for those who died in Sodom and Gomorrah kept changing back and forth. How is that progressive?

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How the Watchtower Screws Up Your View of Scripture

by CalebInFloroda in

while i do not argue the stand of atheism (because as a jew i find it totally logical and acceptable), i have noticed that there are odd carryover preconceptions about scripture that some hold as axiomatic about the bible (at least the hebrew texts), misconceptions that have nothing to do with the jewish scriptures themselves.. so regardless of what you may think of scripture, whether you believe it is of g-d or not, i thought some of you might enjoy a reference to see how much the watchtower teaching on scripture might still be influencing the conclusions you are making today...at least about the tanakh.

jews read their texts acknowledging the following:.

1. no scriptural concept of original sin.

oppostate

You too wound up about things and need to chilax. You are splitting hairs and reading things into my comments that are not there and far from my intentions.

Ayuh! I'm too wound up, and in need of healing like Ben Harper wrote and Marvin sang it.

Jews come in all different shapes and sizes, you can't just ask a Jew because just about every single Jew has a different opinion, there's secular Jews, and reformed Jews, and progressive reformed Jews, conservative Jews, agnostic Jews, constrictivist Jews, marxist Jews, atheist Jews, and Orthodox Jews, and even Ultra-Orthodox Jews--How do you expect to make headway with your individual point of view if other Jews would argue tooth and nail about things you say?

How about re-titling your "new" thread WISH YOU KNEW? ASK "ME", CALEB.