its_me, wine is not 'intoxicating liquor'
I wonder if Rutherford availed himself of the provision during Prohibition that allowed for doctor's prescriptions of whisky - usually handed out for symptoms of fatigue or 'general malaise'...lol.
i found this to be very interesting on a lot of levels.. http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/history/e1920/rutherford1.htm.
some exerpts:.
recently the president of our association, responding to a question concerning the eighteenth amendment of the constitution of the united states, which prohibits the manufacture, sale and transportation of intoxicating liquor within the united states and which is known as the prohibition law, said: "prohibition is a scheme of the devil," referring of course to the law above mentioned.
its_me, wine is not 'intoxicating liquor'
I wonder if Rutherford availed himself of the provision during Prohibition that allowed for doctor's prescriptions of whisky - usually handed out for symptoms of fatigue or 'general malaise'...lol.
i found this to be very interesting on a lot of levels.. http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/history/e1920/rutherford1.htm.
some exerpts:.
recently the president of our association, responding to a question concerning the eighteenth amendment of the constitution of the united states, which prohibits the manufacture, sale and transportation of intoxicating liquor within the united states and which is known as the prohibition law, said: "prohibition is a scheme of the devil," referring of course to the law above mentioned.
i found this to be very interesting on a lot of levels.. http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/history/e1920/rutherford1.htm.
some exerpts:.
recently the president of our association, responding to a question concerning the eighteenth amendment of the constitution of the united states, which prohibits the manufacture, sale and transportation of intoxicating liquor within the united states and which is known as the prohibition law, said: "prohibition is a scheme of the devil," referring of course to the law above mentioned.
come to me Monkeykins
i found this to be very interesting on a lot of levels.. http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/history/e1920/rutherford1.htm.
some exerpts:.
recently the president of our association, responding to a question concerning the eighteenth amendment of the constitution of the united states, which prohibits the manufacture, sale and transportation of intoxicating liquor within the united states and which is known as the prohibition law, said: "prohibition is a scheme of the devil," referring of course to the law above mentioned.
...Well I guess I'm the only one who finds this intersting
rules:.
1) cannot use 'you, me, i' sutible alternatives are 'us, we'.
2) do not make statements, you have to makes statements in the form of a negative question.
I love this thread...ooops I mean WE love this thread...oops WE love this thread and I (we) promise that's not because any of us have been engaging in the drinking of any intoxicating liquor. Cuz that would be bad. For me. Ooops US.
i found this to be very interesting on a lot of levels.. http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/history/e1920/rutherford1.htm.
some exerpts:.
recently the president of our association, responding to a question concerning the eighteenth amendment of the constitution of the united states, which prohibits the manufacture, sale and transportation of intoxicating liquor within the united states and which is known as the prohibition law, said: "prohibition is a scheme of the devil," referring of course to the law above mentioned.
I found this to be very interesting on a lot of levels.
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/history/e1920/rutherford1.htm
Some exerpts:
Recently the President of our Association, responding to a question concerning the Eighteenth Amendment of the Constitution of the United States, which prohibits the manufacture, sale and transportation of intoxicating liquor within the United States and which is known as the prohibition law, said: "Prohibition is a scheme of the devil," referring of course to the law above mentioned. Some of the brethren have made strenuous protests against this statement. Because of the seeming misunderstanding we deem it proper for The Watch Tower to state the Scriptural view of the matter.
In the outset it must be conceded by all fair-minded people the prohibition is either the result of God's will being done on earth or else a scheme of the devil. Let each one judge which it is in the light of the undisputed facts.
A desire to eliminate intoxicating liquor and all other evils is a proper and laudable desire. All Christians should be in accord with that desire. But how to accomplish that end is a different thing. The devil has a way of appearing to accomplish it, and his way is that of fraud and deceit.
God's way of accomplishing that end is righteous and complete. In his own due time he will completely eliminate intoxicating liquors and all other evil influences. He has said to man: "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts." Isaiah 55:9.
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It is well known that the ultra-rich, the politicians, and even many clergy are supplied with all the intoxicating liquor they can consume, while they are making the greatest noise for the enforcement of the prohibition law. As an illustration: One influential clergyman, who led the fight in his vicinity for prohibition, shortly after the enactment of the law had his house burglarized. The burglars found his cellar stocked with liquors, and indulged in same so freely that they broke up his furniture. The clergyman refused to prosecute the guilty ones because it would expose the fact that he, an advocate of prohibition, had stocked up well in advance, that he might not need to deny himself things that he was willing to take away from his neighbors merely for show.
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Intoxicating liquor is a great evil, and the saloons a curse to humanity. The good American people do not want either. They are also sick and disgusted with pious-faced frauds, who parade in the name of Christ, hypocritically claiming to be representing God and righteousness, who join hands with the conscienceless politicians and profiteers to enact and enforce a law, and claim it to be the carrying out of God's will. When Jesus was on earth he denounced above everything else fraud and hypocrisy. God's Word admonishes Christians to abstain from every form of evil. Fraud and hypocrisy are amongst the greatest evils.
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No Christian advocates the use of intoxicating liquor.
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The Lord Jesus is now present. His kingdom is at hand. Satan, in his desperation to deceive the people, has appeared as an angel of light and has put forth a thing, to wit, prohibition, which appears to be good but which in truth and in fact is a fraudulent scheme to turn the minds of the people away from Christ and his kingdom.
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The Lord could prohibit intoxicating liquors at any time, but it is not yet his due time. It follows, then, that the scheme put forth at this particular time in the light of the evidence is not God's plan or scheme but that of the devil.
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So intoxicating liquor is evil but Prohibition is evil too and the Clergy are hypocrites...and oh yeah - the end is soon.
the society once even pictured jesus as clean shaven for many years in it's books.
beards were "sort of" banned.
i don't remember a single brother who had privledges with a beard....anyone else?.
The Elder™ who Baptized™ me had a beard. Kept it for years after that... and then was coerced into choosing between being an Elder™ and keeping his beard. Guess what was more important?
I know who you're talking about, Scully and I always felt bad for him over that...the man has his flaws but he was absolutely correct in bucking that rule for as long as he did and should have stuck to his guns over it. He may have been able to wake up and help wake up his family. Sadly, that never happened.
if you want to skip to the new light or understanding, its underlined for you pleasure.
i think some will find this interesting.
we had the co tonight.
Call me crazy but the more they change stuff they’ve preached for years about when the blessed great tribulation of death is actually coming, the more they’re subconsciously preparing people that it won’t happen in their lifetime. All their talk about ‘soon’ and ‘never been closer’ and crap is only that - crap, and they know it. Fred Franz needed the 7,000 year creative day to be true in order for 1975 to be in any way viable. It was ‘ok’ to extend the end from 1975 for a few years but now it’s getting ridiculous. Then they changed the ‘generation’ to refer only to the anointed and then to the overlapping nonsense. If this is truly ‘new light’ and not some whacked out CO on GB pills, then they truly are pulling away not only from the 7,000 year notion (which has already been strongly implied) but also from 1914 - it’s inevitable. 2014 is closing in and don’t think they don’t know it. Better to drip and drab the idea that it’s still a long way away to rest in the subconscious of the r&f while pushing the ‘any day now’ notion on the surface. This way, the next crop of JW’s can carry on the grand old tradition of worshipping the GB, which is the real intent.
I love the section this was put in - now THAT's comedy
im having difficulty with this.
no where else can you find a chrstian org with people like the ones ive seen in the halls.
im not talking the good ol' boy club.
May I suggest that you start worshipping at the alter of knowledge? Keep asking yourself the hard questions and don't be afraid of the answers. You're remembering the shiny happy faces at the KH and that's very seductive but you know that it's all a show. A very elaborate show. Look around you and get to know people, take up a hobby, join a wine club - whatever. Talk to people and listen to them. Really listen. You'll see that people out there are just people, just like people in the KH only without the obligation to judge you based on whether you're wearing a suit or whether or not you have a beard. Really stop and think about what you've been indoctrinated with and open your mind a little. You'll be surprised at what you find out there.