I find it astonishing and intellectually irresponsible for people to be able to blithely dismiss all other myths and legends as such; for example: Thor, Zeus, Mithra, Horus, Merlin, Santa etc. - and yet go to extreme lengths to find a way to make the bible stories real somehow. The same powers of logic used to dismiss all these other stories is somehow blockaded when it comes to the bible. And yet some among these believers have managed to pick and choose which parts of the bible are real and which parts are allegory, all the while picking and choosing only those that prop up their need for faith, and discounting things in the very book that they get their faith from that makes them uncomfortable.
The fact that so many believers on this site have stated that they dislike religion is another prime example. It’s easy to look around now and see the flaws in current religions but if it hadn’t been for these religions in the first place, there would be no belief whatsoever. Mithra is no longer believed in as a god because the religion worshipping him as such died out. Same goes for every other belief system that had a religion and system of worship around that belief. You can compare the stories of Jesus to the stories of Mithra and Horus and find remarkable parallels but the Jesus believers will scoff and find holes in the comparisons. Why? Because they feel a NEED to believe and this is the fuel that fires their brand of logic. I understand it because I did it myself for so long but in my case, I wasn’t content to just stop the process to feed an imagined need.
Did the emperor Constantine really receive a divine vision at the Battle of the Milvian Bridge? His claim of this, that Christ appeared to him and assured him of victory, was what propped up Christianity and led to that religion being chosen over others of the time as the religion of state and the dissolution of other contemporary religions, including Mithraism. Those who believe in the bible as divinely inspired must also believe that Constantine was a divine vessel of sorts and that Christ was by his side in a decisive battle.
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I don't believe the Bible is Inspired of god - Why do you / don't you?
by cantleave inmany of you may know that i was brought up a witness and stayed in until the age of 42, even reaching the dizzy heights of being a congregation elder.
i was unusual in that, even as a witness i studied to degree level, on a part time basis, sponsored by my employer.
my first was in chemistry and my masters is in business administration.
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For the record I have nothing against you personally either, truthseeker. :)
It just kinda pains me to see someone who has managed shake off the shackles of the WT and then somehow stopped thinking... -
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So what makes Cinderella's story something you can't believe in as having been real? Is it the fairy godmother? Her magic wand? That she turned a pumpkin into a coach? Maybe it was a miracle! Don't respond until you really think about that. And don't make me bring up Jack and the Beanstalk because the notion of giants existing is just silly, right?
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Well truthseeker, you're welcome...but you didn't answer my question. Were Cinderella and Hansel & Gretel real people? They were in a book and everything and the stories about their lives have been passed down from generation to generation and told over and over again. They must have been real, right?
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I'm assuming you and everyone else here does not believe the bible.
No more than you believe Hansel & Gretel were real kids who wandered off in a forest or that Cinderella got her prince because of help from a fairy godmother. But mention any of these references in our culture and everyone knows what you're referring to. Does that make it real?
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Tell you what, truthseeker - you acknowledge that belief in the flood as described in the bible automatically equates to a belief in evolution on a scale that is unheard of and impossible scientifically and we'll call it even.
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Keep ignoring facts and logic, truthseeker. You're making all the arguments for how ridiculous these beliefs are all by yourself...
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For Shamus
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikij9ekfazy&list=fl62dstfj_jxotmvhmlnidig&index=23&feature=plpp_video.
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come so that I may stroke your luscious pelt affectionately
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If you have fears, you might very well create your own nightmare out there, but it is not real.
Hence, the idea of a global flood..
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The Two Forces
by N.drew inthe ark pictures the response to one kind.. it means the customs of the people can cause catastrophe.. and most people did not stop the destructive behavior , but some used it to be redeemed.. .
sodom pictures the other kind.. it means the people respond badly to the intuitive recognition that doom is ahead.. .
in one case what the people are doing causes something bad.
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damn...I'm always late to the party
