Posts by nugget

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Do you believe that God is using the faithful and discreet slave

by trujw in

it seems that this question is used by elder to trap us and close their minds(the jw elder) to thinking.

if you answer no they wrap up a jc in short order.

i was wondering if any have tried to use a more pointed question to actually get them to think themselves.

nugget

Turn it back on them.

Why are you asking me this question it sounds like you have doubts? I think you should work on your own relationship with Jehovah before seeking clarity from me.

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i remember reading somewhere in regards to a a 'prophet' of sorts who had predicted all the popes that have been chosen.. his 'prophecy' stated that the next pope (since benedict has resigned) would be the last before the 'end' would come.

his name would be pope peter.. let's see what happens.

we are suppose to know who the next pope will be before easter..

nugget

How many end of the worlds have I lived through in the last few years. What with Harold Camping and the Mayans, the JWs the Hale Bop comet and god knows what else I have lost faith in the end of the world. I heard years ago that the last pope would be a pope John. The end of the world is getting old now I sincerely hope someone comes up with something new to predict.

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Who have you lost?

by Strawberryfieldsforever in

jw
friends

i was just thinking the other day how small our family is now that we aren't jw's.

we are thankful that we at least have our children!

my husband lost his mom and dad and only sister and her husband and all their children.

nugget

I lost my older sister and my niece and nephew. I also have an on off relationship with my mother depending on what rubbish the watchtower has printed this week.

I have gained a better relationship with my Father and my sister in the US who was never a witness. I have increased my circle of affection to include non conditional friends. I have also gained a happier relationship with my own children. I have gained more than I lost since for years I had lost a real connection with some family members and didn't even realise it.

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Remember, remember a poster called V...just spoke with him

by besty in

jw
friends

all is well in v world - a lot less wwwwwatchtower,.

thought some of you may like to know he is still alive and thriving!.

good health v - you helped a lot of people...and still do.... http://www.youtube.com/user/wtcomments.

nugget

Good to know all is well.. Thank you for the update.

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If you have a Guardian Angle, would you be embarrassed?

by jam in

if you found out after you die, you had a guardian angel.

watching over you, your entire life.. there are moments in my life i don,t care to think about.lol.

your guardian angel, ok folks this is jam one nite after consuming.

nugget

My guardian angel would probably have fallen asleep from boredom. There are seriously few spicy bits in my life to keep it interested. I hope he has a good book to read when I'm walking the dog and doing the ironing.

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My ex JW sister is an APOLOGIST!!!!!

by joyfulfader in

i have had a few conversations with my sister who left the org several years ago and has been dating a non jw for several years now.

she celebrates the holidays and everything.

so the other day i brought up some of the things i have learned since leaving.

nugget

Some people leave but are not really free. They feel they cannot live up to the demands of the religion themselves but still think the teachings are right it sounds like your sister is one of these.

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Our Story

by Auntfancy in

jw
friends

hi everyone, i have been on here for a little while and haven't introduced myself to you.

i can't tell you how much all of you have helped me sort many things out in my mind.. i was raised in a very good christian home and married my hs sweetheart.

i left home and moved half way across the country with a husband and a brand new baby.

nugget

Welcome to the forum. I am glad you have been able to share celebrations with your family and that they are there for you. Having support on the outside is a gift.

40

Fading with children in tow

by brainmelt in

nugget

Fading with children is difficult and very hard. Staying in a religion that restricts their childhood and isolates them from their peers is extremely damaging. We wanted thenm to have the chance to make real friends not conditional ones.

When we faded our children were 7 and 9. Our son has aspergers so it is also impossible for him to keep a secret. We had to make choices about whether to live as JWs but no longer go to meetings and on service or whether to allow them to have a normal childhood with the risks that would entail. We went for the later. I had seen how the belief system was harming their ability to relate to others and causing them to be isolated. This meant that the fade could only be maintained for a limited time. Part of this was because as parents we realised it was unfair to make the children responsible for keeping a secret from family. This is a big thing because later on if they blurt out something to their grandparents that leads to a JC and Df'ing then there is a possibility that they may feel they are to blame for the bad things happening.

We were honest with the children from the beginning but made it clear that whatever happened it was our decision not theirs and as their parents we were responsible.

I wish you luck we have not managed to maintain all family relationships but 3 years on I feel we did the right thing for our children.

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Did you hear Jw's swear?

by highdose in

jw
friends

i know that what counts as swearing differs alot from region to region, amongst the words i heard used were "crap, bloody, shit, git, bastard, bitch" and the dubs who used these words would say that they didn't belive they were swear words at all!.

nugget

yes it was usually me.

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Future Baby-Mama in a Rage!

by SophieG in

sosoconfused mentioned this vaguely in his thread and it upset me... i asked him to post where i could find the information, trust me i went looking!

now lets read this:.

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20121215/view-of-in-vitro-fertilization/.

nugget

They are applying iron age thinking to modern life. At the time the rules were writen women were property and knowing the origin of children was all to do with inheritance. It is ridiculous to suggest that a woman choosing AI is commiting fornication. The society is not interested in biological clocks or the personal desires of it's members. they would rather their members remain childless since this means they are more likely to inherit the estates of these people.

They are greedy, selfish and lack any shred of human compassion and have no right to dictate who should be a mother and who should not. The way they ensure that children within the cult have no childhood shows that they have no interest in children or families.