Posts by nugget
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The Loyalty Question
by choosing life inhow many here have been asked the loyalty question by an elder.
i am referring to, "do you believe that jehovah is using the faithful and discreet slave class to accomplish his work?
" or something along this line?.
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I was asked and my husband was asked. On the basis of the answer we gave we were df'd. -
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Is this a subtle clue that the leaders really see the "great tribulation" of the WT coming soon?
by never a jw insimilarly, we cannotexpect that the future interruption inthe great tribulation will result in aninflux of new believers.
rather, it willbe an opportunity for all true believersto prove their love for jehovah andgive their support to christs brothers.. (par.
7, page 16, wt july 2015).
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The message is a reinforcement of the need to be loyal to the GB ie. brothers PROVE their love for Jehovah by being loyal to the organisation. This is more about control than an expectation of Gods Judgement.
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Today's Special Day Assembly Expenses and the $10,499 Deficit. Silent Majority?
by Tenacious intoday i attended a one-day assembly in my hometown.
i knew when it came time to read the afternoon expenses that it would be an incredibly high and ridiculous amount that was nowhere near the real expenses for that day.
sure enough, after lunch came the announcement.
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The issue they are starting to face is that members are being asked for money every which way with monthly donations and handing over the kingdom hall accounts. It is little wonder that when you are being squeezed for cash so often that at an assembly the call for yet more money is ringing a little hollow. Time was when accounts reports and the very occasional talk about donations was all you heard now it seems that Caleb videos targeting the young plus multiple financial arrangements and talks seem to be dominating the program like never before.
It is money more than doctrine that may be the straw that broke the camels back. Older witnesses still remember the Russell quote about god looking after the organisation and if they sought donations then it would be a sign that God had withdrawn his support.
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Hello world !
by Mrs. Eden inwell, here i am.. hello world, mrs. eden sending regards to everyone.
:).
my english is limited, so please go easy on me.. mrs. eden.
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Nearly Killing My Mother Wasn't Enough !
by cookiemaster inas some of you might have read last week, my mother had extremely low hemoglobin and without it, she would have died.
i have somehow managed to bring her to reason and accept the transfusion.
it saved her life.
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So sorry for your mum.. She needs love and support and a chance to fully recover. Elders are so confident of their own authority that their zeal will overcome their common decency. This seems to fit more with the pharisees than the example of Jesus they are constantly stating they follow.
Jesus didn't punish the woman with the flow of blood who touched him even though she was unclean, he healed her. What your mum required was compassion and if they felt blood was so important then forgiveness and a chance to express repentance if they felt that was required. When faced with a life or death decision how can anyone judge another for the choice they make to live. Your mother deserved a chance to live and be happy, to be cared for when she was sick and to be treated with the kindness her age and frail condition deserve. Men who cannot see that are not motivated by a higher power but by their own Huberis.
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UK TV--next monday 24th aug---channel 5-----9 pm--escaping the witnesses
by stan livedeath injust see it advertised on tv--with photo of our friend from south wales
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I think that it was well put together and by juxtaposing Scientology with the Witnesses it was a helpful way to bring home that certain practices are cult practices. The experts in the program highlighted the elder arrangement and judicial committees as particularly problematic and a signature of cults as well as the shunning. The stories were not lurid and were dealt with in a very compassionate way.
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Ganged up via Telephone
by vinman ini've been fading for about 9 months.
the elders know exactly why.
i received a phone call a couple of days ago.
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So proud of you although I feel that these revelations will make little difference to the elders concerned.
Be proud of yourself for making the stand that you needed to make.
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what happens when one informs elders that one's baptism was invalid?
by quincemyles inis it possible to move from baptized publisher to unbaptized status perpetually?
what do elders do when you inform them that your baptism was invalid?
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I know of a sister who asked to be rebaptised but don't know why exactly. It did not involve wrong doing only that she didn't feel that she had made a proper dedication to Jehovah previously.
I think they are happy to double dip but not to write off a previous dedication as invalid.
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Is homosexuality ever justifiable? I say YES!!!
by TimothyT inin the january 2012 awake, pages 28-29 there is another article about homosexuality.. .
the writers argue that genetics, the environment, and sexual abuse do not justify homosexuality.
the bible clearly states that homosexuality is wrong and is an abhorrent sin.
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congratulations on the wedding plans good for you. It is important to have people in your life who are there for you and accept you for who you are,
I wish you every happiness for your future.
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venting: My wife is in cult mode again! she tried to start a fight..
by goingthruthemotions inso when i was at luch today, my wife was in full cult mode.
she started in on me about us not being able to hang with other witnesses and when i go to the meetings with her that i don't talk with nobody nor pay attention and act angry.
i told her that i don't want to fight and i have better things to do than argue.
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If she has no friends in the organisation then who is she expecting to socialise with? Were her friendships historically your friends and she came along as your spouse or is she longing for an ideal you never had. JWs don't in general socialise extensively there are too many things to do. If you are not part of a clique then often social events are few and far between.
It seems to me that she raises hell about you not attending because this makes the meetings difficult. When you go she is angry because you don't play the happy spiritual man. She has a template in her head of what a JW family should be like and you are not playing ball.
Perhaps it may be time to set a baseline if you no longer wish to attend meetings then don't, tell your wife that you respect her and appreciate that she has the right to make her own choices regarding religion. If she wishes to attend meetings then she should go but for the moment you will not be accompanying her.
If she wishes to socialise then perhaps she should make the first move and hold a small gathering for sisters whilst you are at work. Coffee and cake is all that is required after a service arrangement especially if the territory being worked is close by. Or perhaps she should start with family and invite family round for a weekend meal or barbeque. Passively waiting for invites sucks and leads to disappointment.
If she continues to be unreasonable then it may be worth reassessing the situation but at least you will have tried a compromise.