Posts by nugget

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I need help, I'm falling in love with a JW girl

by nebula-- in

so i met her at my last job that i worked & we started off as friends.

i didn't know her faith at the time & i honestly couldn't have cared less, seeing as i'm agnostic.

after about a year, i began developing emotions for her & sure enough, we ended up dating for a little while.

nugget

This is a tough situation emotions ar involved and in reality this is a situation you cannot win.

If you convert then for the rest of your life you will be controlled by a faith that limits life and involves itself in every aspect of your life. It does not hold back from telling you what is acceptable between husband and wife, how much contact you should have with non believers, what career you can have, what you should read, watch and listen to. You will be unable to celebrate normal life events and you will be distanced from every person who does not share your beliefs. All this for a woman who will be more loyal to the congregation than to you, someone who can only give you conditional love and who will walk away from the relationship if you no longer follow her beliefs.

If you do not convert you will find that your relationship is constantly undermined by her faith. As you will be deemed a worldly person your opinion counts for little and the elders will have more influence over her than you will. It will not be an equal relationship. You will constantly be compromising for her faith as witnesses are taught that they must be loyal to Jehovah above personal relationships. Witness family life is disfunctional.

She cannot invest as much in this relationship as you can. I would ask her if she intends to remain a witness and if she does then walk away. It will be painful but in the long term you have the opportunity to meet someone who can offer you a committed relationship. You cannot change her if this is what she wants.

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Second in the Medal Table - Well Done TeamGB

by konceptual99 in

can't believe it - gb is currently second in the medal table, with more golds and silvers combined than even china.

given the size of the nation it's an incredible achievement and we have won in some sports where other countries typically dominate.

i can't imagine we will stay in second but i am happy to enjoy the moment.. well done to the whole of team gb!.

nugget

Team GB did good. I was especially happy to see Nick Skelton get his show jumping gold at 58 after hip replacement and recovering from a broken back.

Wouldn't like to be part of the Chinese team right now.

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Hello Everyone

by Mozzie in

jw
friends

hoping this is the right section..... my story so far,,,.

hello everyone, i have been reading a lot on what most jws would say apostate websites, but i have been asking myself, how much of this s true and considering a lot of these are run by ex jw elders, bethalites and one who was with the gb at one stage, overseers and the like.

i was an unbaptized publisher many years ago but never got to the point of baptism as i fell into sin, that pretty much ended my attending meetings again.

nugget

This religion is demanding a huge amount from you. You have to ask if they have the right to make these demands. You have seen the evidence which suggests that they are not perfect and their doctrine is based on their own interpretation of scripture rather than anything divine. You would be a selfish fool to abandon your relationship and break up your family based on their instructions.

This is not a religion that will bring anything positive to your family as it drives a wedge between believers and unbelievers. They are masters at distancing people from family members who may disagree with their point of view. They do break up families and then deny that this happens. Your partner and children deserve better from you. Rather than searching for spiritual fulfilment outside try investing the same amount of time in your relationships they have been loyal to you it is time you stopped focusing on yourself. How is this studying affecting those around you?

Just because JWs called on your house it doesn't mean they were sent by god. Everyone gets called on, everyone is on a map. In truth the postman called on you more frequently are you sure he wasn't the messenger from god.

Don't waste any more time on this religion.

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New Dutch Assembly Hall Swifterbant - 17 September 2016

by darkspilver in

jw
friends

a new 2,500 seater assembly hall in the netherlands - which expands to 3,500 seats for the annual conventions - is being dedicated on saturday 17 september 2016.. the existing hall on the site is converted into a venue for the wt schools - lecture room with ancillary accomodation - bedrooms, kitchen, canteen, study areas etc etc.

background information:.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/261089/big-jw-changes-netherlands-holland.

nugget

I wouldn't like to sit here for a 2 day assembly. They seem to have dispensed with carpet and comfortable seating so they must have saved some money on furnishing the building.

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Elders and Attendants sing, clap and turn backs on Street Preacher after Duluth RC.

by ToesUp in

very strange behavior by the attendants and elders after the duluth, ga, rc.

on the first link the attendants start to exit the arena, then line up and turn their backs on the street preachers.

(around the 6:00 mark).. elders and attendants after duluth rc.

nugget

They would have been better to just ignore him but then cults do not behave rationally.

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what a wonderful site!

by scruffmcbuff in

ive been reading through this forum for a while and thought i should contribute!.

so im df, i was very involved regular pioneer for several years and i slowly started to wake up.. my exprience of leaving is horendous and contains alot of shocking (but apparently not that rare in the orgs) judicials and various encounters with the elders.. ive been out 10 years now and at 27 loving life!

running a succesful business and dont all thay materialistic stuff thata frowned apon, like providing my wife and kids with a nice car and house!

nugget

Welcome glad to know that things have improved since leaving.

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In love with a JW girl

by rastapau in

need advise.

i was in a relation with a jw girl for almost three years(im am not jw) and we are so inlove with each other until someone saw us from her congregation and she was disfellowed and that where the oddness happened.

her family and friends are not talking to her anymore, she wants me to stop seeing and talking to her anymore not until i became a baptized jw.

nugget

Relationships with JWs are unbalanced and frustrating. You correctly identified that you gave up everything for her but she is unwilling to make changes for you. She wants you to be a JW which is an extremely restrictive religion but at the same time there is no guarantee that if you jump through all the hoops she will still be there for you.

Witnesses offer conditional love is that what you really want or do you want someone to love you for who you are.

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Warning: Watchtower computer dept. registers accounts on Ex-JW sites, coerces people to divulge their personal details

by WTS Archive in

jw
friends

we had a bad experience with watchtower trying to infiltrate our forums.

let this story be a warning for all you guys here.

if you value your privacy do not ever send your real contact details to anyone, even if you trust them (because their accounts could be hacked or accessed by their relatives - and yes, this happened to people i know several times already).

nugget

Lone individuals can also take it upon themselves to stalk and try to out people who are trying to exit the organisation. I have personally experienced this when someone sent me a pm asking for information regarding an earlier event in my life. I genuinely believed this person was in distress and sent details of how I had been affected. Later when the elders came to interrogate us about apostate activity they quoted from the PM. I can not tell you how violated I felt. It just so happened that it was the right time to exit so no lasting harm was caused it certainly cemented my decision to walk away.

If you are not ready to jump ship do not divulge personal information to anyone unless you are sure that they are who they claim to be witnesses on a mission are unscrupulous.

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Hello all

by WhiskeySix in

jw
friends

i am new to this site and wanted to say hi.

my wife and i are recently disassociated.

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nugget

Welcome WhiskeySix I wish you both an easy transition into normality whatever that looks like for you.

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Necessary Family Business (NFB) is now acceptable according to the weekly WT Study

by Quarterback in

during the last decade i've seen so many articles, and top speakers try to downplay that nfb policy.

now, this weeks wt study mentions a positive experience of someone applying having, "contact and applying nfb with a df relative".

nugget

you have to balance this with the dram at the assembly which showed little to no contact with a Df'd child The child was told they had to leave home as they were a bad influence and the parents did not answer calls from the DF'd child. The implication is necessary family business goes only one way. If the parents need help from the Df'd child then they would contact them but since they do not answer calls from the child it really doesn't matter how desperate they are.

JW discipline is vindictive and spitefiul there is nothing devine about it. I see nothing positive here