Doctrine does not really matter to those under mind control.
LostGeneration
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The FDS as a group
by scary21 inif the governing body is only the fds in a group, does that mean the ( real ) fds only came about in the 70's when they started governing?
( as a group).
before that it was a one man rule, not a group.
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Another Totalitarian Analogy
by metatron ini've spoken privately with some witnesses over the past couple weeks and it caused me to think about an analogy.
i turn to totalitarian examples because that's the basic structure of the 'truth'.. as nazi germany encountered defeat, several things happened.
some higher ups sought to escape into surrender in the west because they realized defeat was inevitable.
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LostGeneration
These comparisons to a nation like Nazi Germany or N. Korea are a false analogy.
The WTS doesn't have to control a geographic population, many of whom would be independent thinkers.
They cater to dependent thinkers, people who want their thinking done for them. Probably 30% of the population falls into this category, which of course means that 70% leave the cult when they become adults. The other 30% stay because its comfortable to have someone else tell them what to do on most days of the week.
This cult is 140 years old. Its not going anywhere.
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Oops! I think my numbers up!
by Oneoutallout inhad a call from an elder a few weeks ago, asking if he could visit.
managed to get away with saying thanks but no thanks.
had another one tonight.
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LostGeneration
Tell em it was a Festivus celebration, ain't nothin' wrong with that!
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CONGREGATION FLEECING RESULTS?
by The Searcher inhow much did your congregation and its bank account get taken for?
share your horror story!.
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LostGeneration
The loan payments only go until Armageddon comes...
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CONGREGATION FLEECING RESULTS?
by The Searcher inhow much did your congregation and its bank account get taken for?
share your horror story!.
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LostGeneration
So if A WATCHERs congo was to pay off the old mortgage at $1100 a month, they would have paid it off in 7.5 years.
Under the new $900 payment, it would take 9.25 years. So unless Armageddon comes before then, you get fleeced every year thereafter until Armageddon comes.
BTW, why did your elders disobey the instruction in the letter to pay what you were already paying?
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Why so many unbelieving spouses?
by garyneal ini had been thinking about religion and religious services in general and perhaps i am just noticing it more because of my personal involvement but it seems that the jehovahs witness religion tends to have more incidents of mixed marriages where one partner is considered the unbelieving spouse than other religions or churches.
of course, i have not been to church is a while and even when i did go to church i found that there werent as many instances of a spouse going it alone in the church without their partner.
i guess that is partly why i got discouraged in going to church as i felt like i could only bring half my family to it.. the main thing i would like to discuss, though, is why does there seem to be a higher number of mixed marriages within this religion as opposed to other religions.
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LostGeneration
I don't think there are more mixed marriages in the JW population compared to the world.
The problem is the strain caused by one partner being a part of a cult which demands the first place in the person's life. Add to that the shit doctrine (holidays, birthdays, all unbelievers will die) and you have a recipe for disaster.
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The WT Isn't Going Away (sorry got long)
by LostGeneration ini've seen more threads and comments in the last week about the "demise of the wt" than in some time.
several were on threads about the donation arrangement and how its going to backfire in some way on the wt.
oh and the lone elder who was pissed in some sort of passive-aggresive manner about it when he presented the resolution.
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LostGeneration
you guys are all basing your models based off of past years when the organization could recruit.
Far from it. They were at 6 million 20 years ago. Now they are almost at 8 million. Not that numbers really matter. They don't really care about the old days of 5 percent growth. They simply want the ship to keep on sailing, with loyalty and obedience being the top priority.
Everyone comes on here screaming about 70% of the kids leaving. And you know what that means? 30% stay, and they get to be the rock stars in the org. They can easily survive negative growth down to 5 million, as long as people contribute their money and time.
Kneehigh, do you ever go on Facebook/Instagram/twitter and read the drivel these JWs write? They are ALL IN and nothing is going to shake them free unless a pedo rapes one of their children. Its a sad fact, but they are in it for SELFISH reasons, to look good in front of their social group - and to spout off about how faithful they are to the b0RG. All kinds of blather about 'Just got back from the KH build' or 'the convention' with selfies posted all over the place. They are PROUD of it. I'll tell ya, its one thing to be stuck in the org, which was my mindset back in the day, but I never broadcast it, even at work. These tools are really, really gone - more than ever I believe.
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What is your status???
by lrkr inmy family and i are planning a trip to a nice vacation area close to where my (active jw) parents and sister and brother in law live.
my family and i are not df'd, da'd or anything else- we just executed a successful fade and havent looked back.
sooo- i've expressed my interest in spending some time with them on vacation (why not- right??).
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LostGeneration
Funny and sad at the same time. Its like their brains are like a computer program searching for what to do in this situation and its a big "does not compute" loop that keeps playing in their mind.
Pretty sick when they just can't accept their family for who they are.
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The WT Isn't Going Away (sorry got long)
by LostGeneration ini've seen more threads and comments in the last week about the "demise of the wt" than in some time.
several were on threads about the donation arrangement and how its going to backfire in some way on the wt.
oh and the lone elder who was pissed in some sort of passive-aggresive manner about it when he presented the resolution.
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LostGeneration
Think about this, could you run a real estate investment trust where you had the following advantages:
Tax free status
Free labor to build your buildings
Free labor to manage your buildings (RBC)
Continuous monthly stream of income, until Armageddon arrives.
"Buying power" ability to strike discounted deals on materials
No accountability, no quarterly or annual reports to investors.
No dividend to pay (other than everlasting life)
Those are the advantages I can think of in 5 minutes, I'm sure there are many more with this new real estate ploy.
They aren't going anywhere!
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The WT Isn't Going Away (sorry got long)
by LostGeneration ini've seen more threads and comments in the last week about the "demise of the wt" than in some time.
several were on threads about the donation arrangement and how its going to backfire in some way on the wt.
oh and the lone elder who was pissed in some sort of passive-aggresive manner about it when he presented the resolution.
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LostGeneration
Meta- More cash? Who knows, I dont and neither do you. They just sold off a billion in real estate. They are priming the rest of their waterfront property this very minute. Could bring in another billion before they beat it upstate. As to the rest of the items, what would you do if you were running the Corp? Continue printing endless drivel for which there is no public demand. The death of print was actaully a blessing in disguise for them, the perfect excuse to get out of the business.
Vidiot - Sort of the purpose of this thread, have seen hundreds over the years predicting the demise of the WT. Yet they survive. False prophecies, UN involvement, shunning, lawsuits, shit doctrine - none of it matters! Why? Because they have a product that they don't have to deliver, everlasting life in a paradise on earth!
The point is they aren't going anywhere, so if you are 'in', you have to sack up and get out!