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  Will there be bars in the New System?

  by undercover in

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  with apologies to laverite.... growing up as a jw i always imagined the new system (tm) as being just like it's presented in the literature (tm).

  i thought we'd all be hanging around with dorky looks on our faces, petting tigers and panda bears all day while we eat fruit and practice our dorky grins.. peronsally, i've never seen an illustration from the society showing modern conveniences.

  the people in the illlustrations are always working in a garden somewhere (while wearing meeting clothes) or looking heavenward with a frontal lobotomy smile.. i think to be able to survive in this new world, i would need alcohol and lots of it.

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  LostGeneration

  This thread kinda highlights something for me, that I've never really given much thought before. That being, the WT really hasn't done all that great of a job selling paradise, have they?

  The whole concept of paradise earth is ridiculous once you dig one level below the WT inspired pictures. The biggest problem I have with the idea is how would they keep people from "sinning" once they are perfect. By sin I'm thinking of the WT definition. I mean how long will it take before boredom sets in with the fruit and the gardening and the animals and the picnics? After a few thousand years, that routine is going to get stale.

  So John Q Fun is going to want to either have a poker game with his buddies, or smoke some tobacco, or get drunk, or have an orgy (assuming he is one of the lucky ones with genetalia.) Then what? I mean isn't everyone living in paradise going to have free will? At some point they are going to be like Adam and Eve and break the rules, right?

  The only way around it would be for God to remove free will so they just walk around with the lobotomy smile described by Undercover. Maybe that is the plan and the GB just hasn't seen fit to reveal that light to the masses.
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  How do you view the people you left behind?

  by sabastious in

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  i had a lot of anger towards them for a good amount of time.

  but now, i like to think about the good times we had.

  i like to think about their attributes i admired.

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  LostGeneration

  LOL Burn...I used to always wear a leather jacket in service. But I never wore it over a suit coat like that dude!
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  Will there be bars in the New System?

  by undercover in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with apologies to laverite.... growing up as a jw i always imagined the new system (tm) as being just like it's presented in the literature (tm).

  i thought we'd all be hanging around with dorky looks on our faces, petting tigers and panda bears all day while we eat fruit and practice our dorky grins.. peronsally, i've never seen an illustration from the society showing modern conveniences.

  the people in the illlustrations are always working in a garden somewhere (while wearing meeting clothes) or looking heavenward with a frontal lobotomy smile.. i think to be able to survive in this new world, i would need alcohol and lots of it.

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  LostGeneration

  A good question.

  A JW would probably answer no bars but there would be wine and possibly beer.

  So that leads to the question "What happens to somebody who drinks too much in the new system?" And who defines what is too much? A 115 lb woman might feel pretty tipsy after two glasses of wine, but a 250 lb man might be able to handle 5 glasses with no problem. So do the "princes" of the new world form a judicial commitee to figure out if you drank too much? But then again, if everyone is perfect then would they just know not to drink too much, or has their free will been removed making it impossible to get drunk?

  So many questions that cannot be answered logically, Im just glad I wont be there.
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  "Field Service Groups" are more important now than ever before?

  by easyreader1970 in

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  the scare bells are ringing again in the congregations.

  this past week, the field service group leader/commander/overlord/whatever made a pretty lengthy announcement that, going forward, the field service groups are going to be of the utmost importance as we wind down towards the end here.

  while no indication on when this end might actually be, it was hinted that we might not always have access to the congregation proper and that the few families that are part of the fsg would have to become close knit that they might depend on one another when things get ugly.. i haven't read everything that has passed through the wbts' sphincter lately, but did i miss something?

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  LostGeneration

  They used to say the same thing about the book study...look what happened to that.

  Hopefully the same is in store for FS, but I doubt it.

  Anyway, it really makes no sense. What percentage is out for a particular group any given Saturday. Probably anywhere from 25% to 50% if its a nice day at the end of the month (when pubs feel guilty because they need bigger numbers in their excel spreadsheet for Jehovah). How is a conductor going to be an effective leader when the majority of his troops are not even there?

  And exactly what info is being given out at the meeting for FS these days? No daily text, sounds like it is just a place to make car groups and get out there (again get your "time started" so your excel sheet looks good for the conductor) They may as well meet in the Starbucks parking lot and kill two birds with one stone.
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  isn't this lovely? Not!!

  by therevealer in

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  LostGeneration

  I dont think that is from a WT publication, probably from a publisher trying to get cute with an illustration.
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  So, circuit assembly. Ni-i-ice...

  by sd-7 in

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  randy newman might say, in this moment, .

  moving on, had to get that out of my head, um...so.

  i feel like this is the worst time to be writing anything, as i'm in a rather foul mood today.

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  LostGeneration

  Go ahead and unload...guys like us need an outlet. I should probably follow your example and get more of the garbage going on in my life off of my chest as well.

  Wall Street 2- not too good, I was bummed, but if you get a cheap rental its worth a buck. Not much more though.

  Seriously, about the CA its a tough call. I broke down early this month and went to one day with my JW wife, mainly to make her happy.

  What a joke, I was going to write a post on it, but I'll just dump a few thoughts here. The DO sickened me with his pimping of the GB. Called them the "most progressive GB" in the history of the b0rg (like all the JWs should just be sooooooooo happy to live under the control of this bunch). He was promoting the the changes they have made over the past 5 years as if they had completely reformed the religion into the greatest thing the earth has ever seen. I literally had to stick my finger in my ear to see if there was a ball of wax in there causing me to hear him wrong. Same you know what-different day.

  Also, he kept saying "the faithful slave and its represtentative Governing body" I mean it really was obvious that this phrasing has been spelled out from headquarters. Maybe a way to get people to stop nibbling and sipping at the memorial? I don't know any more, I don't want to waste any more brain power trying to read the tea leaves. I'd suggest you do the same, but its tough when it makes your wife happy.
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  Why is there so much nastiness on the board lately???

  by Lozhasleft in

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  i dont get it ... one minute we're all mooching along happily and then we get a big wave of insulting horrible behaviour....?.

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  loz x.

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  LostGeneration

  The love of the greater number is cooling off......

  Gawd I wish I could get rid of all these WTisms that rattle around in my noggin!
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  Window Washers

  by dontplaceliterature in

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  question:.

  why do i see so frequently the witnesses referred to as "window washers" on here?

  i have been a witness (though only recently "conscious") for my whole life.

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  LostGeneration

  WTWizard nailed it....
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  Preparing Scriptural Defenses Against WTBTS

  by Band on the Run in

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  i am curious whether most people here believe that they need to memorize biblical proofs against wtbts teachings the way they did as a witness.

  my concern is that for someone out for decades, i may read the bible too much.

  i am drawn to it almost unnaturally as for me it is the best proof the witnesses lied and willfully misinterpreted.

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  LostGeneration

  There are only a few that I have locked and loaded in case of a witness encounter. For the DF'd for apostacy class like myself, there aren't many encounters. 1 Tim 2:5,6 is really the only one I care to reference in hopes of waking up a witness.

  The problem is that most scripture can be argued from one side or another. With an indoctrinated JW they are simply going to take the WTBTS explanation, no further thinking required. Thats why I don't find the need to have hundreds of scriptures memorized, they aren't going to reason anyway.
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  Simon, Could You Pull and Post a Report...

  by Yan Bibiyan in

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  ...on how many people have joined jwn during the years?.

  lately i seem to see an influx of new people signing up.

  a report of user sign-ups maybe by year or whatever breakdown available could be very "upbuilding" and "encouraging" to lurkers.

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  LostGeneration

  Truly, Simon is speeding things up in these last days!