Posts by LostGeneration

This is one of the big arguments that really led me out the door. Supposedly, Jehovah has been waiting oh so long because he is a patient God, and wants so many to survive. The big problem with this WT lie is exposed when you look at stats like this

http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html

http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/popclockworld.html

Just since 1/1/11 the population of the earth has increased by 9 million. JWs claim 800 get baptised a day, so that is about 40,0000 so far this year. So if you follow the numbers to their logical conclusion, Jehovah must destroy 8,960,000 more humans than he would have back on Jan 1st.

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CO's putting the screws on elder bodies, and ministerial servants to auxilliary pioneer this April.

by miseryloveselders in

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i have such a love/hate, 50/50 relationship with this organization any more, but a letter was read to the elders and ministerial servants that has pushed me to the 30/70 range in favor of hate, if even momentarily.

most of you if not all are aware of the auxilliary pioneering initiative for this upcoming april.

it's no secret that i'm not real fond of pioneering as its unscriptural for one thing.

LostGeneration

When this first came out, I thought it would be used to squeeze the elders, servants, and others to "do more" Like others have said, it is probably a trial balloon which will pump up the numbers, and then the long rumored 30 hr aux pioneer title will be put through for next year's memorial. That had me concerned that it would be used to squeeze more FS time out of everyone.

I don't think it will be too bad long term, meaning five years down the road. Let me explain. We all know the WT corp is a sinking ship. Yes a slowly sinking ship, but the GB is just trying to keep it afloat for as long as they are alive and of course make the "numbers" look good while they are in charge of the Titanic. A permanent change like this might get people fired up for a year, maybe two at most. The same ole "What a blessing from the GB/Jehovah" will be the mantra. Then what? Everyone starts slacking off just like before. You can't keep people in a perpetual state of alarm year after year after year.

I haven't put much stock in the argument that 2014 would wake that many people up, but maybe the GB is really fearing the upcoming 100 year anniversary of Jesus doing nothing. Maybe they are just trying to rally the troops for the next few years and hope most of them stick around.

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This is the freakiest thing I've ever seen

by just n from bethel in

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http://www.jwbrothers.org/videos/1684/.

title edited, per posting guidelines.

scully.

LostGeneration

Wow. Watching that video might just wake someone in the cult up.

Horrific

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Jehovah'$ Witne$$e$ say center would have big impact

by betterdaze in

jehovah's witnesses say center would have big impact.

a planned 3,000-seat educational center will have a substantial economic impact on orangeburg county over the next five years, jehovah's witnesses officials say.. .

the center could generate $264 million in revenues over a five-year period, with the added benefit of more than $18.4 million in new sales tax revenues for the local area, church spokesman bill sims said.. .

LostGeneration

Yeah they like to use numbers that are more in line with what a business convention attendee spends. I heard a saying quite some time ago about all religious conventioneers (not just JWs) regarding their frugality:

"They bring the Ten Commandments and a Ten dollar bill, and they don't break either"

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CO's putting the screws on elder bodies, and ministerial servants to auxilliary pioneer this April.

by miseryloveselders in

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i have such a love/hate, 50/50 relationship with this organization any more, but a letter was read to the elders and ministerial servants that has pushed me to the 30/70 range in favor of hate, if even momentarily.

most of you if not all are aware of the auxilliary pioneering initiative for this upcoming april.

it's no secret that i'm not real fond of pioneering as its unscriptural for one thing.

LostGeneration

Here is your chance to resign. State that due to work obligations, you feel that you cannot make the pioneer requirements in April. Tell them you don't want to be the one elder causing the elder body to miss the "perfect attendance" mark set out in the CO letter.

Bastards.

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Black Friday Stampedes VS. District Convention Morning Gate Openings

by Mr. Falcon in

has anyone had a jw rant to them around christmas time about how "horrible" it is to be a "worldly" person at that time of year?.

certian jws love to use the infamous black friday shopping riots that tend to occur as examples to back up this argument.

now, while those incidents are indeed disgraceful, they are hardly isolated to the "world".. among my "priveliges" was to be an attendant at a few district conventions.

LostGeneration

Mr. Falcon- Now that was a funny post. Witnessed a few Sunday morning drama stampedes myself. Depending on how many doors were available to enter the building, it was definitely a cattle herd pushing in from the outside as well.

The hypocrisy of JWs continues to amaze

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Being honest with yourself, could you have reasonably adjusted your attitude and continued on as a JW?

by miseryloveselders in

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i ask this question in harmony with deedub's swan song thread which i linked below.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/205902/1/time-to-say-good-bye.

to some degree, i think i understand where she's coming from.

just speaking from my own experiences since stepping into the world of anonymous apostacy, i went through a few different phases of personal outlooks.

LostGeneration

MLE - That is a pretty laid back hall, I can relate to some of the experiences that you are relating, and I have many memories of the same. That being said, what it boils down to for me is "What holds it all together?"

For me, the bottom line is that the entire WT entity is held together by one big fat LIE. The lie being that Jehovah has an organization today, and it is headquartered in Brooklyn NY where 7 guys have a telephone line to him in heaven. Ok, I know thats blowing it out of proportion a bit, but ask if all of it would would continue if each JW individually examined this claim without being mind-controlled. Add to that what effect the org has on people, I posted this on DeeDubs thread:

Once you know how many people have died early deaths because they refuse blood, how many families are torn to shreds because of DFing, and how many innocent children have been sexually abused because the WT is more interested in their reputation and cold hard cash, your conscience should not allow you to support them in any way.

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"If this 'system of things' goes on..."

by Franklin Massey in

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i have been hearing more people saying this now than ever.

especially those in the over-40 crowd.

i just got off the phone with an older jw family member who was reviewing options for golden years living.

LostGeneration

I too was told I would never get out of high school by my Grandmother. Now she is pushing 90 and I am 20 years removed from high school. LOL!

I think a lot of it had to do with the old generation teaching, which pretty much capped "this system of things" at the year 2000.

As far as the OP's comments, yes I think many 50 somethings are taking off the rose colored glasses. Deep down, they know that the big A isn't coming, and most haven't done a damn thing to plan for retirement and old age. I guess better late then never, hopefully they slack off in FS and meetings a bit and enjoy the rest of their lives.

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Content is King- Why the Meetings Fail

by LostGeneration in

one of the big sayings for those that run websites is that "content is king" it makes perfect sense, as sites like this one have entertaining content for the targeted audience.

even better, more content is added everyday bringing users back repeatedly.

poptular tv shows and movies are loved because they entertain customers for a low cost or free.. on the other hand, you have the content provided by the watchtower bible and tract society, delivered though the pages of the watchtower and through weekly meetings.

LostGeneration

Was There Really a Global Flood?

Many critics say No. But the Bible says Yes.

Now there is some incredible reasoning for you!