just wondering to those that have gone to one of the international or rc assemblies what's the attendance been like.
wondering if people are still willing to spend so much money and travel to go to a convention or if more people are just saying no??
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Some of the IG pics show around 50k at the New Jersey international, of course there are a ton of JWs in the Northeast so not sure how far many of them have to travel.
I think there is a big one in Texas in the next week or two, would like to know how far some of the JWs are driving to get to that one.
heard from a reliable source that this was part of friday's program.
they even interviewed a "former gay man" who "kicked the gay habit".. evidently kicking the "gay habit" is difficult, not unlike quitting smoking or avoiding sugary snacks.
the persons who related this to me found the whole thing to be laughable at best, but honestly seemed quite disturbed by it (which is good!
Absurd.
Any guidelines for everyone else? You know, the ones struggling with the "hetero habit"?
today, thanks to a brave do and my colleague elkatire 1980, we make make public the manual, guidelines for traveling overseers (tga-s), of which existence many suspected, but even in english, it wasnt available.. from its very title page, this book indicates in bold letters:.
it should not be shown to others, nor should any portion of it be reproduced.
note: for now, this book is only available in spanish, but we are working in translating a brief summary in english, hoping that someone from the english congregations makes it available to you soon.. http://hildeydesa.blogspot.com/2014/06/pautas-para-los-superintendentes.html.
wow!
Wish I knew Spanish.
Can't wait for the translation.
way back in 20's or 30's, (someone correct me if i have the time frame wrong), the wt's strategy for witnessing was to give each publisher (or have them buy one) a phonograph to set on the householder's steps so they could play one of the judge's speeches.. flash forward and there was a testimony card that publishers handed to the householder, introducing them.. this gave way to the current model of the publisher being informed and able to discuss a subject with the householder.. .
that seems to be giving way to the new approach being used by the wt: the website.. the wt realizes that slick content is more impressive that a publisher talking, one who can't or won't keep up with the insane doctrinal changes.. publishing books and magazines is taking the back seat; the wt and awake have less than half the content they used to, and are published half as often.. the wt's trolley cart method involves not getting into discussions with people, but using an ipad to play them a video.. .
the past is the future!.
I still have a hard time with the concept of someone opening the door, the JW saying "I have a video for you to watch" and the householder being cool with that. I'd feel like an absolute dope if I was the JW doing that sort of presentation. I guess I felt like a dope peddling WT and Awakes as well.
How in the world is this going to fly?
heard from a reliable source that this was part of friday's program.
they even interviewed a "former gay man" who "kicked the gay habit".. evidently kicking the "gay habit" is difficult, not unlike quitting smoking or avoiding sugary snacks.
the persons who related this to me found the whole thing to be laughable at best, but honestly seemed quite disturbed by it (which is good!
The 'gay habit'? Wow, that is some way to phrase it.
Hopefully someone got that on tape and will have it on Youtube shortly.
i was listening to a circuit overseer's talk and he mentioned about how a sister wanted to simplify.
she had a couple of dogs.
then he related that she said that all she had to do was get rid of the dogs.
Pay taxes on their self-employment.
Oh wait, they already do that.
i just found this out last night.
(preface: this is a husband and wife that i have come to be friends with after leaving the borg, they are christians).
we were sitting around visiting last night and having a good time when my friend starts in on illegal immigration and politics and starts throwing out his hate speech which eventually turns to homosexuals.
Thats funny. Was his theory that God just created the earth with a bunch of fossils already built into it?
Come across this a few times myself, I realize now that there are plenty of people out there just as crazy as the JWs.
i don't understand why so many ex jws and faders think that the jws will continue to grow and thrive as a religion.
i still attend a meeting once a week and you can smell the death of the religion creeping up when you hear the talks, read the study wts and hear the letters from the gb.
the way the organization has changed is a sign that it reached its peak (in "healthy" membership) long ago.
And though many here have sounded the death knell for Mormonism, we're still doing quite well
Of course they are doing well, the leaders of course. Sucking 10% off of the top of every single Mormon's income has to really add up!
God Needs Money!
if gods kingdom is anything like the laws of leviticus and other books, it will be tough on women and children.
a man gets into a fight with another man and his wife impulsively grabs the offenders testies.
her hands are cut off.
Good points.
Along with DOC's thought, I've though a lot about what JW paradise would mean.
Endless fruit platters and a personal petting zoo might be nice at first, but after 347,000 years that would get old. What happens when someone plants some marijuana and starts smoking it up once the buds are ready? What if someone starts a 'business' or a competitive sports league? Are they going to get wiped off of the face of the earth? And how will those still alive cope with that kind of justice?
Its an impossibility, unless free will is removed.
i don't understand why so many ex jws and faders think that the jws will continue to grow and thrive as a religion.
i still attend a meeting once a week and you can smell the death of the religion creeping up when you hear the talks, read the study wts and hear the letters from the gb.
the way the organization has changed is a sign that it reached its peak (in "healthy" membership) long ago.
And yet the org still grows.
The same thing was said after 75.
And when the 'generation' doctrine was blown up in 95.
And when the UN scandal broke.
And when the bullshit known as overlapping generations was rolled out just a few years back.
So you still go? Why? You are wasting every single minute you get ready for it, attend, and drive back home. Zero return on investment.
And how many like you do the same? Thousands? Hundreds of thousands? Who knows?
The Watchtower Printing and Real Estate Investment Corporation isn't going anywhere. Sure growth may stop, even decline in the next decade or two. So what? Millions will still stay in, because they either can't or don't want to think.
Its up to you to get out.
