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  Got my memorial invite yesterday...

  by OneEyedJoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wasn't sure how this would be handled since the elders haven't harassed me as much as a lot of others have gotten, plus we live a ways outside of the territory so i figured there was a shot they'd leave me alone since it's inconvenient.

  guess not.

  two elders showed up unannounced toward the end of their recruiting shift.

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  Another Galling WT Study

  by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  january 2016 watchtower (study edition).

  be determined to “let your brotherly love continue”!.

  this article was easy to read.

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  When we think about the hard work that our elders do for us

  I'll go ahead and object to this premise. In the past, it may have been hard. Today, its just time consuming. As long as you are wiling to shove your family into the back seat and give a lot of your time to the cause of the WTS then you are elder material.

  That's exactly why so many elders resign eventually, and the smart ones coming up in the ranks don't "reach out" for the silliness of being an elder. Its a title with the privilege of getting the scoop on all of the dirty laundry in the congo. Certainly nothing of great value deserving extra respect from the troops, and many are recognizing that and refusing to bow down and kissing the rings of the elders.
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  A few questions I need help with please.

  by Pallbearer in

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  2. beliefs

  howdy folks!.

  has that title changed?

  if so, what is it now called?

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  1. They are now called the CBOE, Coordinator of the Body of Elders. Because a Coordinator wouldn't Preside over others, right?

  2. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Seriously, I've never heard of such a thing, in fact it continues to be a theme of "Listen, Obey, and be Blessed". They don't need or want suggestions from the underlings, because they know it all.
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  Gossiping

  by Sabin in

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  2. friends

  so last night we had some friends around for dinner, (not jw) & it was a really wonderful evening.

  we talked about a variety of subjects, just had a laugh & drunk wine & beer.

  this morning my husband & i were talking about how nice it was, how free we felt with our opinions.

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  genuine english guy seeking jw lady

  by english_gentleman in

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  2. relationships

  hi, i believe that a lady is put on earth to satisfy the needs of her partner and respect his views in all matters.. i realize some here may consider that old fashioned and not based on sexual equality.. yet a lady and man are not created equal because the lady gives birth and the man must sire many children.

  if you are a lady under 30 and keen to meet me, willing to cook and breed, then please message me here.

  please do not contact me if you disagree with my views, we can agree to differ.

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  And women complain that chivalry is dead!!
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  Any cool tattoos out there???

  by brandnew in

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  2. friends

  heres one on my arm.....i pull up my sleeve.....a chick will read it.....i pull down my sleeve.......and the chick is like why did you cover it up??????

  duh thats all ya get......just 1 😂😂😂😂😂😂.

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  I'm considering it, have been doing so for about 3 years now. Yep, a fear of commitment is what strikes a born in JW who married at 19 an stayed there for more than 20 years.

  I'm thinking the Invisible Pink Unicorn or the FSM, but can't decide which deity is the true God.
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  Quote about Honesty and lies of omission in latest Watchtower.

  by cappytan in

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  2. friends

  jesus honestly identified himself as the messiah, even though his truthful admission could allow the sanhedrin to claim that he was a blasphemer and could lead to his execution.—matt.

  will we be honest in situations where a slight omission or twist of words might bring us material gain?.

  article here.

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  How about this exchange from that testimony:

  “Do you see yourselves as Jehovah’s spokespeople on earth?”

  Jackson replied, “That, I think, would seem to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the ‘only spokesperson’ that God is using.”

  I've been meaning to start a thread on that quote, it basically is a step away from Peter's denial of Jesus.

  Here is one of the Guardians of Doctrine, hailed before a governmental authority. What better time to scream from the rooftops that "We are the one true religion, you must follow us or you will shortly perish at Jesus' hands in the great day of Armageddon!!!!"

  But no. He cowered, ducked and dodged. He dismissed the idea that Jesus had appointed his Watchtower gang, right when he had the chance to tell the world that they were the appointed leaders here on the earth today!
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  I chuckle whenever I think of this

  by Nathan Natas in

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  2. humour

  about a month ago magnum posted an incident he recalled from his time in the borg... i've copied and pasted it below:.

  magnum .

  that was one of the most frustrating, irritating things to me in jwdom over my several decades in.

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  AM the Turd got off easy, whether it was on purpose by accident. If he had said "yoga pants" there would have been a lot more JW women pissed as hell.
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  Elders & Ex Elders, did knowing sins of congregation members change how you treated them?

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when you found out all the sins of fellow witnesses did it effect how you treated them?

  it was shocking when i found out the range of bs these people did to each other.

  i don't mean sexual abuse, i mean fraud, theft, infidelity and more.

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  Haha don't ya hate it when your thread meets an untimely demise!

  I was only for a coupla years, probably not even two. Fortunately I never had to put on the hip waders, so to speak. Only a couple of straightforward JCs for me, and neither one dealt with sex which looking back makes me sigh in relief.

  What I did see was the absolute weirdness of the other elders behind closed doors. Certain one had their pet peeves about individuals. Others about certain "sins", they would view someone as immediately worthy of DFing if they had a bias against what they did.

  Then the self righteousness itself, gack. It woke me up though, might still be in there if I stayed a lowly MS.
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  The JW Spin - why governments and opposers should let jws handle abusers themselves

  by Robo Bobo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i came across this blog - it is one of the evilest things i've ever read.. http://dismythed.blogspot.com/2016/02/flip-side-news-opposers-want-ex.html.

  you might not want to click on it because a) you'll give it more traffic and b) it will make you mad.

  in summary it states that since only 11-17% of molesters are repeat offenders, witnesses guilty of abuse should be dealt with inside the congregation as long as they confess.

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  Copy/Paste of the whole thing if you don't want to visit Einstein's blog:

  Those in governments and our apostates want those of Jehovah's Witnesses who have once been criminals to stop confessing their sins to the elders. They also want to take away the freedom of victims and anyone who hears about a case, to decide whether they will report the offender. Victims and their families could end up paying the price along with the offender.
  
  If you have ever been molested, you are not alone. However, if your molester hasnot repented and has re-offended, then they are actually an uncommon breed among child molesters. Only 11-17% of child molesters in the world ever re-offend after ceasing their activity. But the following issue affects many times more people than just those unrepentant offenders. Our opposers are willing to destroy the lives of thousands just to get at the few. But they don't want you thinking about the numbers. No, they want to stop your thinking by getting you to hone your thoughts in on the few, blinding you with a "forest for the trees" scenario.
  
  Our opposers are on a witch hunt to get a hold of our list of sex offenders. This list includes not just rapists and child molesters who have confessed and left their sins behind, but also a great deal more who simply had consensual sex with teenagers that were a year below the legal age limit or who performed some youthful indiscretion. Then there's the fact that being able to acquire one list opens the door up to the governments having authority to acquire any other list of non-sexual criminals or even any other private records both among religions and private citizens without restriction. And not just Jehovah's Witnesses would be affected, but other religions as well, including Catholics, Baptists, Muslims and Buddhists. All under the pretense of getting the few child molesters who have not gotten themselves under control. Instead of seeking to work with Jehovah's Witnesses to ferret out those individuals, they put themselves in opposition to Jehovah's Witnesses over petty religious differences. The hardened attitude of "all criminals must pay" is unchristian and unsympathetic to those seeking help and repentance.
  
  They don't want former criminals coming clean so that they could get help from the elders. They want to force these people into the shadows and to re-offend because they didn't get the help they needed. They also want to increase the likelihood of re-offense through incarceration so that they can have something to hold against Jehovah's Witnesses. Why would they not confess their sins? Because if the authorities get a hold of that list of sex offenders, it will be impossible for sex offenders to confess their sins to the elders without getting arrested. Brothers who have already confessed and left their sins are at risk if that list gets released. Even those who once repented and have become inactive or gone apostate are at risk. Even people who have never been Jehovah's Witnesses will be at risk, and all of their families will be affected.
  
  In full disclosure, I myself was a victim of child sex abuse by someone I know. My abuser has never re-offended, has never offended with anyone else, and has never been one of Jehovah's Witnesses. They have a family and their grown children love them and, though knowing about the person's past, have stated that the person never did anything to them. But if those files get out, that person will be at risk for prosecution, and if that person found out it was because of that list that they were arrested, then they will never even consider joining the organization. Thus, their eternal salvation, and their freedom, is at risk.
  
  Since the statute of limitations does not apply to child molestation in our area, that person will be prosecuted and arrested and could potentially do life in prison, not to mention lose their job, their pension and all hopes of ever finding meaningful employment, all because our selfish opposers have a vendetta against Jehovah's Witnesses in general. I'm the victim and I do not want that for my former abuser. Besides this, my former abuser is also a linchpin to their family's survival. The distress this would cause an entire non-Witness family is the punishment that our opposers seek because they only want to create reasons for people to leave or never to come to Jehovah's organization. Besides this, I myself could be jailed because I most certainly would refuse to testify against my repentant abuser.
  
  So this issue does not just concern Jehovah's Witnesses, but concerns even people in the world. Since only 11% of treated child molesters and 17% of untreated child molesters ever re-offend, that means 83-89% of them, those who have repented and never re-offended, who have molested children that are or became one of Jehovah's Witnesses, or who themselves have been Jehovah's Witnesses at any time and confessed their sins, are at risk. Are we supposed to punish someone who has repented and is not a threat to anyone? Should the authorities have such power to override the sanctity of religious confession? Would this not violate the separation of church and state so essential to the policies and legal statutes of so many countries today, such as the United States?