Posts by Wonderment

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Why the Deficit at the Circuit Assembly?

by JT-LadyC in

have you ever wondered why there is always a deficit at the circuit assembly?

did you realize that before the program begins, the circuit is already in the red?

many of the friends thought they were paying for the use of the building and covering the costs of the utilities, etc.

Wonderment

There are two certain things in life: death and taxes.

That's not right! Let me correct that: There are THREE certain things in life:

Death, taxes, and now, deficits in JW circuit assemblies.

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The official relationship between Jehovahs Witnessses and the Watchtower? I'm confused.

by Joliette in

jw
friends

can anybody answer this for me?.

whenever i tell people i'm ex jehovahs witnesses, they always assume that i'm against the jehovahs witnesses, but i am more so against the watchtower then anything.people assume that i'm anti-jehovahs witness, but now that i've done more research i've realized that its the watchtower thats more harmful then the jehovahs witnesses, even though theres a lot of jehovahs witnesses i dont like, i'm not against jehovahs witnesses as a group.. can anyone explain this to me?.

Wonderment

Joliette: "There's a lot of confusion when it comes to this. I always tell my brother I'm against the watchtower but he thinks I'm against Jehovah."

The WT Society has been very successful in deceiving its followers with the belief that putting your trust in "the faithful and discreet slave" is the same as placing faith in Jehovah. Not true! These two are totally different things.

It is the authoritative and unyielding nature of the WT Society that makes it despicable to all those being victimized by its un-Christian practices.

It is not God's fault that this religious entity does not follow Christian practices as they claim. And the JWs are just gullible victims of the superior cunning of its leaders. They have been blinded by ‘the god of this system of things, so that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ...might not shine through.’ (2 Cor 4.4)

Instead of ‘the glorious good news about the Christ shining through’ to them, what they get is ‘the ominous news of the faithful and discreet slave shining through’...that those who independently worship God without them are doomed.

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I am losing

by NoMoreHustle in

i haven't posted anything for a bit, but wanted to express how i am losing this battle.

it has been over 3 years now since i woke up about watchtower.

the battle that i am talking about is the tug of war with my wife (i adore her immensely), watchtower is winning, she simply will not give in to my so-called negative thoughts about the religion that we are in.

Wonderment

It is very likely that no matter how much you try to convince her out of the WT religion, she will stay put. Leave her alone. Let her worship the way she thinks is right. As long as she doesn't force you to go along, you both will be better off.

When someone is fully convinced of something, such one will likely not let go unless something drastic happens in their life. When you least expected, your wife may perhaps go through her own bad experience with someone there, or with a drastic change the Society implements, making her rethink her allegiance. Time also can do what you may not. People often do change with the passing of time.

Best wishes to you!

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Can I pick up a New World Translation from the JW London head office?

by Camperdown9 in

i'm an anglican and not a jehovahs witness.

what i dislike about lots of church congregations is their readiness to make unpleasant and unhelpful comments about other christian groups.

recently someone in a church tried to tell me a little about the views of jehovahs witnesses.

Wonderment

Camperdown9: "I'm an Anglican and not a Jehovahs Witness. What I dislike about lots of church congregations is their readiness to make unpleasant and unhelpful comments about other Christian groups."

I agree with you there.

However, asking most ex_JWs how they feel about the religion, will most likely get you a flood of the most disparaging criticisms one could ever come up with.

I too have a problem with the religion. I have been victimized for abandoning the JW religion. My family have deserted me. Nevertheless, I can still see some of the good things they do well. I venture to say that every group of believers do some things right and many things wrong. The JWs are no exception. A main problem with the JWs has to do with their shunning policies, and the control the leadership exerts over their followers. In that sense, the JWs are a dangerous religion.

About the NWT, there are all sorts of opinions about it, mostly bad. But I feel those people who put it down so harshly reflect their own religious bias as well. Someone here said of the JW Bble that, "Their New World Translation is just a copy of another translation that has been a altered to fit JW theology." The first part of this statement is simply not true. The burden is on the person to prove such allegation. On the second part of the statement, I agree that the NWT has been adapted to fit JW theology. What a lot of people fail to realize though, is that just about every Bible translation out there has been adapted to fit the theology of the translators, whoever they may be. This outcome is often not deliberate, but a consequence of their educational background.

I am glad to see someone open enough to query others about another faith. In the end, I advise anyone to be careful of whatever claims any religious group make of other faiths, and be willing to analyze different opinions on the matter before reaching a personal conclusion.

Good wishes!

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Any weapons enthusiasts here?

by Wonderment in

i knew i had a couple of firearms around the house, and one in the car.

however, i didn't realize i had seven, yes, seven of them, when i proceeded to count them.

the reason for that is that i haven't gone to the shooting range in years.

Wonderment

Thanks talesin for the quick response!

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Any weapons enthusiasts here?

by Wonderment in

i knew i had a couple of firearms around the house, and one in the car.

however, i didn't realize i had seven, yes, seven of them, when i proceeded to count them.

the reason for that is that i haven't gone to the shooting range in years.

Wonderment

talesin: "Pepper spray [in Canada] is illegal - but a small can of aerosol hairspray works just as well, and is considerably cheaper."

Where did you learn this? This is interesting! Does it really work like pepper sprays?

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I no longer feel smart as a JW, I feel dumb...

by thedepressedsoul in

i don't want anyone to take this the wrong way but i use to at least feel smart as a jw.

when i went to thursday night meetings, i at least felt like i was a student, that i was learning how to speak publicly, i could prepare my own comments, i could answer points that i learned from the weekly bible reading.

i even feel like an "idiot" studying for the meetings.

Wonderment

George Carlin, the comedian, used to say that government leaders everywhere want their people smart enough so they can be productive and follow directions, but not so smart to a degree where they can easily perceive the overall state of corruption ever-present in their governments.

The same with the WT Society. They want their followers to be equally productive and follow directions at all costs, but they don't to want their followers smart enough where they can easily sense on their own the fragile doctrinal base supporting the WT Society. No deep study! No private studying without the faithful and discreet slave guiding them. Thus, the ‘dumbing down’ of their message as a result.

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Any weapons enthusiasts here?

by Wonderment in

i knew i had a couple of firearms around the house, and one in the car.

however, i didn't realize i had seven, yes, seven of them, when i proceeded to count them.

the reason for that is that i haven't gone to the shooting range in years.

Wonderment

I knew I had a couple of firearms around the house, and one in the car. However, I didn't realize I had seven, yes, seven of them, when I proceeded to count them. The reason for that is that I haven't gone to the shooting range in years. Until recently, that is. I picked up the urge to shoot again.

Today, I sold four of those firearms to a local dealer: one Taurus 22 magnum revolver; one 32 short top breaker revolver; one 32 magnum revolver, and one HR 38 Special revolver. I decided to keep my Smith-Wesson 38 Special M-10 revolver, and a Taurus 357 revolver. Also, I recently bought a Glock G43 for carry on. I'm also thinking about getting a Glock G19.

So I wonder how many of you have firearms in your possession. If so, which? Do you like shooting practice? Any preferences?

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Ladies: Circumcision or not?

by Wonderment in

the topic of circumcision has been brought up a few times recently.

then i wondered... .

how do women really view circumcision?

Wonderment

It is hard to understand why some people react so strongly against the practice, as unforgivable sin. Obviously these people were not Jewish.

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Ladies: Circumcision or not?

by Wonderment in

the topic of circumcision has been brought up a few times recently.

then i wondered... .

how do women really view circumcision?

Wonderment

The topic of circumcision has been brought up a few times recently. Then I wondered...

How do women really view circumcision? Do the ladies here have any preferences?