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  CO Comes Up With A New Way To Be Judgemental...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  at the latest co visit something very strange happened.

  during the meeting with the elders and servants he passed out a copy of a hypothetical publisher card and asked us what we could learn from it.

  upon receiving it i saw that the average hours were pretty good, it had return visits and quite a few bible studies.

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  Yes, this was presented very seriously. I was just thinking, aren't bible studies supposed to be the most important thing? Or maybe they are afraid some brothers will lie and say that they are out in studies when in reality they just don't want to go out anymore? Because I've thought about doing that. LOL
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  CO Comes Up With A New Way To Be Judgemental...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  at the latest co visit something very strange happened.

  during the meeting with the elders and servants he passed out a copy of a hypothetical publisher card and asked us what we could learn from it.

  upon receiving it i saw that the average hours were pretty good, it had return visits and quite a few bible studies.

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  At the latest CO visit something very strange happened. During the meeting with the Elders and Servants he passed out a copy of a hypothetical publisher card and asked us what we could learn from it. Upon receiving it I saw that the average hours were pretty good, it had return visits and quite a few bible studies. Not much to discern looks like a brother in good standing deserving of recommendation, right? Wrong, you see the brother didn't have many magazine placements and all his RVs could be attributed to his bible studies. What we could learn is that the brother wasn't visible in door to door and thus not a good example to the congregation. So I guess even if you go out and get tons of bible studies you still must make sure you're in door to door just for appearances. The CO then asked "Do you brothers find this unreasonable?" almost challenging someone to come out with an objection. Ridiculous.
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  November WT God's View Of War

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  did anybody else read this article and just think wth?.

  sometimes god approves of war.. sometimes god doesn't approve of war.. when the israelites fought battles and won it was because god blessed them.. when they lost it was because god had not blessed them.. sometimes god fights for oppressed ones.. sometimes they must wait and have faith.. it is so clear that the bible contradicts itself on this issue and that the nation of israel had a totally different view of god than the early christians.

  it is also clear that the nation of israel was highly superstitious and would attribute every battle's outcome to the whims of a higher power.

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  Did anybody else read this article and just think WTH?

  Sometimes God approves of war.

  Sometimes God doesn't approve of war.

  When the Israelites fought battles and won it was because God blessed them.

  When they lost it was because God had not blessed them.

  Sometimes God fights for oppressed ones.

  Sometimes they must wait and have faith.

  It is so clear that the bible contradicts itself on this issue and that the nation of Israel had a totally different view of God than the early Christians. It is also clear that the nation of Israel was highly superstitious and would attribute every battle's outcome to the whims of a higher power. The way the WT tries to work around these obvious facts is hilarious.
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  "Imitate Jehovah" CA Actually Didn't Have That Theme At All

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just got back from "imitate jehovah" ca and noticed that the theme was never really used at all.

  all the talks were about family, preaching and getting along with others in the hall.

  they didn't once go over an account of how jehovah acted in the past and how we should imitate that action.

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  There is no special assembly day because all CAs are now only one day. Believe me I was there for all seven boring hours. At least the RC tried to use accounts from Jesus life although twisted to fit the message. At the CA they didn't even try to use any biblical passages to illustrate the theme. They just cherry picked scriptures to fit the agenda. The worst was a talk on using our resources wisely, which would be okay except it basically got turned into a "donate more" talk.
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  "Imitate Jehovah" CA Actually Didn't Have That Theme At All

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just got back from "imitate jehovah" ca and noticed that the theme was never really used at all.

  all the talks were about family, preaching and getting along with others in the hall.

  they didn't once go over an account of how jehovah acted in the past and how we should imitate that action.

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  Just got back from "Imitate Jehovah" CA and noticed that the theme was never really used at all. All the talks were about family, preaching and getting along with others in the hall. They didn't once go over an account of how Jehovah acted in the past and how we should imitate that action. It's like they thought of what they wanted to remind people about and came up with a theme later.
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  What is your purpose or what do you wish to accomplish while a member of this board?

  by Tenacious in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i joined this forum i was seeking more people who felt the same way i did in terms of seeing the jehovah's witness organization for what it truly was; a false prophet.. once i found like-minded members i slowly started to open up and participate more in trying to help others that were also exiting mentally and physically.

  today, i offer support to anyone who desires it regardless of what they believe or not believe.. so what is your purpose on this board?.

  support?

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  I think what shocks me the most is the common theme "I would but I don't want to get caught" and "I would but I don't want to be exposed". What the hell kind of religion is that? If you are a true WT/JW God would know everything you do/think anyway - but here so many are afraid of getting "caught" by humans. WTF?

  Yes, there is no trust between JWs everyone you know could turn on you. I could go to the hall and there may be other JWs who feel the same as I do but how would I know who they are? The moment I open my mouth with negative comments about the org I could be marked and on the way to losing every family member I have. My marriage could be over because I have no idea how my wife would react to something like that. So yeah there is a lot of fear.
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  Sad Reality...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ...is that most jws don't know anything about the financial news that is happening right now.

  sure it has trickled down to the elders and those who volunteer for construction but the average jw has no idea.

  no one in my hall has said a thing about it.

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  My family isn't even really very "spiritual" but they are still fully controlled and have no idea about anything happening to the org
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  CLAM Instructions - They are irresponsibly stupid

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there will be three presentations during the new christian life & ministry meeting.

  they will be presented by two people and the gb has made specific instructions as to who can be involved in these presentations.

  in all 3 presentations the same explicit instruction is given which is as follows -.

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  Priority #1 Make sure no brothers used this new arrangement to get laid
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  Sad Reality...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ...is that most jws don't know anything about the financial news that is happening right now.

  sure it has trickled down to the elders and those who volunteer for construction but the average jw has no idea.

  no one in my hall has said a thing about it.

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  ...is that most JWs don't know anything about the financial news that is happening right now. Sure it has trickled down to the Elders and those who volunteer for construction but the average JW has no idea. No one in my hall has said a thing about it. I'm sure I'll hear about how the new mid-week meeting is a blessing though and how we must be close to the end because the GB are preparing us more than ever to preach. It may feel good to fantasize that the whole org will implode and everyone will be free but it's not going to happen. It is clear that this org is not going to give in ever, there is only one way out and each person will have to decide for themselves if it is worth it.
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  I have found a new Anthem for us ExJW's - Defector by Muse

  by cantleave in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  freeyeah, i'm freefrom your incitingyou can't brainwash meyou've got a problemfreeyeah i'm freefrom societyyou can't control mei'm a defectoryou think you're strong and you can't be brokenbut your empire is dissolvingyou thought, you thought i was weakbut you got it wronglook into my eyesi'm a defectorfreeyeah, i'm freefrom your incitingyou can't brainwash meyou've got a problemfreeyeah i'm freefrom societyyou can't control mei'm a defectoryour blood is blue and your mind is turned greenand your belly is all yellowyou believe your throne is too high to be overthrownwe'll watch it get razedby a defectorfreeyeah, i'm freefrom your incitingyou can't brainwash meyou've got a problemfreeyeah i'm freefrom societyyou can't control mei'm a defectori'm a defectorfreeyeah, i'm freefrom your incitingyou can't brainwash meyou've got a problemfreeyeah i'm freefrom societyyou can't control mei'm a defector

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  I always thought "The Grudge" by Tool was pretty fitting. Also, "I Don't Wanna Be Here Anymore" by Rise Against although it's not really about religion is a great one for those still trapped.