this is on the reddit frontpage and sounds super weird.
can it be confirmed in any way by anyone here?.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/4u72dk/what_kind_of_announcement_could_cause_jws_to/.
A comment was made that 'The Message' would soon be changing. I asked 'like that the ark door will soon be closing?'. Answer, 'Yes'
If that is the actual announcement then I would believe they are purposely trying to get rid of members to sell off more KHs.
this is on the reddit frontpage and sounds super weird.
can it be confirmed in any way by anyone here?.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/4u72dk/what_kind_of_announcement_could_cause_jws_to/.
Some ideas on the new announcement:
-Midweek Meeting will be changed again, they learned that it was lame and boring LOL
-GB will no longer appear on JW Broadcasting, now they can blame any nonsense they spout on their underlings
-Private Bible Studies replaced with small classes run by select Elders, publishers just invite ones to the class
-New designation for publishers who agree to participate at least 10 hours a month
i would appreciate knowing from someone in the know if the goofy carts and rain covers are given to the congregation by the org.
or if the congregation has to pay the org for them.
i am sure i read that somewhere here in my lurking days, but am not finding it at present.. if the congregation is billed for it i intend to use that as a reason for my continued refusal to donate anything from now on.. thanks in advance..
Requesting public witnessing equipment: The Congregation Service Committee will determine the equipment to be requested and where it will be stored. Public witnessing equipment can be requested in the same way publications are requested. We are pleased to provide a document entitled Public Witnessing Supplies (S-80) that contains sample pictures and descriptions of standard carts, stands, tables, and kiosks. The equipment will remain the property of the congregation. Care should be taken to request only equipment that will be put to good use by publishers who have been trained in its use. The congregation may be informed that the cost of these carts will be covered by their contributions to the worldwide work.
When the carts were first being rolled out a Bro. had told me that there was a back log of congs requesting the carts and each cong would have to get approved before getting a cart. According to this Bro. a donation of $90 was required for each cart received. In addition, new signs are printed for each special campaign. Some congs even print new signs for each WT and Awake. So money is flowing from the cart business. The carts are shipped in boxes and put together Ikea style.
"the sole purpose of our existence as a society is to announce the kingdom established in 1914 and to sound the warning of the fall of babylon the great [in 1918].
we have a special message to deliver.
"--- fred franz's words to bethel family, november 17, 1979..
"The sole purpose of our existence as a Society is to announce the Kingdom established in 1914 and to sound the warning of the fall of Babylon the Great [in 1918]. We have a SPECIAL message to deliver."
That about sums it up. What makes them unique has always been contrived doctrines taken from vague bible prophecies.
it might just be me imagining things.. i hear things from my jw spies.. from all that's being said, it seems to me that the rank and file(tm), are either waking up to the scam and fading/leaving.
they are going full on 'cult mode' and acting like 'spiritual police'.. is it just me and my imagination?
have others noticed this?.
Yes, they are getting more persistent in the calls for loyalty and making the org your one and only priority in life. You just have to look at some of the videos lately to see that they want everyone thinking about how they could pioneer or do more in some other way. They are especially going after young people to try to discourage them from getting a well paying career. There are still people "in the middle ground" but more and more they are looked down upon by those with titles or in the popular groups.
the watchtower 1970 4/1 emphasis the principle that singing at the kingdom hall is part of worship to god and is one of the most beautiful ways they can show this worship to him.. of all the ways in which we can worship and praise jehovah god—by prayer, by public talks, by our field ministry and by our exemplary conduct—one of the most beautiful of them is this literal singing of songs to jehovah’s praise....and, above all, let us pay more than usual attention to the words.
it is by the words that we worship jehovah god, bringing praise to him.
as an introduction to song 146, jw org states -jesus considers any act of love and support for his anointed brothers as though it were done for him.
LOL These guys in heaven with Jesus? Face it, JWs never cared much about Jesus, they prefer the old testament Jehovah. Now the GB wants to insidiously replace Jesus with themselves, the only problem is they have nothing in common with Jesus at all.
our 'beloved' old faith tried to teach us to hate other religions and all things that smacked of anything that was worldly.
they demonized all things outside of their religion.. are some of us in danger of carrying that same thinking over to our new lives as former jws?
could some here at first start out as an anti-cultist but in time allow this to become a 'religion' in itself?.
Yes, some were DF, some have lost children to the blood issue, some are shunned by family and friends and they are also unable to see their grandchildren and have been prevented from attending the wedding of their own son or daughter. Yet, they move on. The Watchtower is no longer a god but neither is it a satan. For them, it is simply nothing.
If something has affected your life that greatly then it will be very difficult to move on, especially when you know it is still affecting other people in the same ways. Would it be right to "move on" when you know others will be hurt as well? Whether or not the organization has bad intentions isn't really important. They are damaging people's well being, some have been damaged more than others.
It is also true that many of the things JWs are criticized for are being done by other religions. The difference is that JWs set themselves up as the one "true" religion. They put down other religions but do the exact same things in a secretive way. So I see nothing wrong with them being called out even over seemingly small matters.
having watched many jc youtube videos one question that gets asked is "where else would you go?".
in other words if not jehovah's witnesses then what other religion or organisation would you go to?.
it's one that i have trouble answering, what would you say?.
In other words if not Jehovah's witnesses then what other religion or organisation would you go to?
I would say that I have a personal relationship with God and so it wouldn't matter where I go (even though I don't really believe that anymore). I would quote the scripture where Jesus said that we are to worship in spirit and truth and it didn't matter what physical place we were at. You could also quote the scripture where it says that whenever two or more are gathered in Jesus name then the spirit would be there also. Jesus never said anything about an organized religion at all.
my heart goes out for all people stuck in all high control groups, either with insight into the falsehood of their beliefs or none.. to remain a member whilst knowing it false however, must be soul destroying.. my question is, would you carry on living the lie if you discovered that we get one life, one go at existing.
it's short, it's fragile and nobody in 100 years will care we even existed..... .......if you came to that realisation would you quit?.
.......if you had children, would you leave in order to set them an example in strength and appreciation of the short time we enjoy?.
It is tough to bite your tongue with some of the ridiculous comments made by believing JWs. Even in casual conversations JWs will relate almost anything back to JW doctrines. It is tiresome but they are my family and friends. I realize that for them it will appear like I changed suddenly if start disagreeing with everything JW related. So sometimes I just try to give a slightly different viewpoint or point out something humorous. Over time I will reveal more but without dropping the apostate bomb on them. Soon they will get used to this as the new normal, hopefully. LOL
top ten reasons.
(why) jehovah's witnesses can't cope with the real world____________________.
the watchtower organization denies access to reality, substituting its own version instead.
Great post, this goes along with the BITE model analysis really well.
