The new CLAM meeting is so boring! Everything is scripted. One thing I don't understand is that the way it is setup now there really are no opportunities for young brothers to develop their own talks. Then you have these videos that they keep showing for teenagers and kids but the rest of the hall is sitting there like "When is this over."
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If you are still in the organization, do you enjoy the meetings ?
by Iamallcool inrate it from 1 to 10. thanks!
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only christianity can turn people into the most arrogant people
by never a jw inso it is 7:30 am here in california and my dog needs to go out.
so i take her out and while i wait for her to be finished my jw neighbor is walking on the sidewalk across the street and quite unexpectedly decides to cross the street towards me.
she has her jw bag and magazines in her hands.
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JW_Rogue
Not true, Islam does a good job of that too I'm sure. LOL I believe that Christianity has done a really good job convincing their adherents that people who question them have some ulterior motives. With JWs it is always assumed that apostates want to go off and live a sinful life or they are too lazy for the preaching work. It could never be that they just don't believe it anymore and can't live a lie. The truth is they don't really care if you have doubts or disagree on certain things as long as you support them.
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Signs That Armageddon is "Any Day Now"
by Nevuela inmy "anointed" roommate told me a good one today.
as we were discussing psychotropic medications, she brought up a friend of hers who was recently forced off of "benzodiazepine" (there is no one drug by this name; rather, it is a specific classification of drug).
she claimed that many people are being forced off of the medication(s) due to "concerns over side effects," and that her friend is suffering from withdrawal on top of whatever symptoms the drug was previously helping to control (she didn't elaborate and i didn't feel comfortable asking, sorry).. my roommate then went on record to say (i'm paraphrasing here) "this is why armageddon has to happen very soon, because satan is using this system to make all these people suffer psychologically to drive them into the streets and go crazy.
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The rise of ISIS and Donald Trump getting elected will certainly cause the GT to begin shortly or so I have heard.
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Convention Videos: Someone messed up royally
by ILoveTTATT2 in.
when i first saw the video, i was like, "wait... is that her... panties showing through the dress"?and it seems like it is so.turns out that if you look at the middle right of the video, there are some letters.
it reads, "footage provided by pond5".if someone wants to purchase that video to confirm, you can purchase it here:http://depositphotos.com/63621499/stock-video-violinist-girl-walking-through-a.htmli think that this was a royal mess up because i doubt they would put footage of a sister in a skimpy, revealing dress.doesn't the gb approve this?this will probably go down as another of the "subliminal images"...if there are thongs in paradise... might not be so bad after all!.
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In paradise men will be perfect, meaning we won't be the same horny bastards that we are now. Thus women will be able to relax and wear some slightly see through clothing without worrying about corrupting our imperfect minds with sexual fantasies. LOL
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Hidden message in JW bunker video?
by Dunedain inso, i was speaking with a relative recently, who is "in" the borg, but is completely aware of the terrible hypocrisy from the gb down.
he is not in the box, and its great to be able to have a realistic, and logical discussion about the current state of the org.. we started discussing, specifically, about that bunker video that was released in december.
how it is being played at all the conventions.
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I also thought it was strange how the bunker series ended without showing what happened to the brothers and sisters after they were found. I think the purpose of that was to leave it up to the imaginations of the audience. Some surely imagined them going to prison like poor Sergei from the earlier video, some probably even imagined them making the ultimate sacrifice, still others could imagine that in that next moment God intervenes and brings their salvation. Whatever the imagined outcome is the point remains the same: to be brought into the paradise you'll have to be loyal to the org and stay close to your congregation. The whole thing is fear based behavior modification, it has nothing to do with bible prophecy at all.
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Convention
by Gorbatchov ingorby is as you know a long time fader.. visited the convention this weekend.. and concluded that samuel herds talk about hope was not so bad at all, it was well balanced.
made some good points.. knowing both sides of the medallion, have to admit he was humble with a focus on hope.. the saturday drama impressed me.
of course, there is a lot to say about the organization, this professional produced movie in a "true story" scenario, gave me the insight that hope is important for suffering people.
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The Saturday drama impressed me. Of course, there is a lot to say about the organization, this professional produced movie in a "true story" scenario, gave me the insight that hope is important for suffering people. Hope is better than no hope.
I know that the movie was made to create this effect on people.
It's not a bad thought, that hope is better than no hope, and this idea is still between my ears.Hope isn't the problem, even false hope can be a comfort for a grieving person. The problem is that WT inserts itself into the equation so that the person's hope is based entirely around serving the WT and it's interest. Who wouldn't want to see their dead relatives again? Unlike other religions though JWs teach that only loyal JWs will be able to entertain that idea.
Taken on it's own the drama didn't have a bad message but in the context of the rest of the convention it was clearly toxic and manipulative.
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Unlocking Phobia's in JW's - Steve Hassan's " Freedom of Mind " book
by flipper inmy wife and i finally finished steve hassan's latest book called " freedom of mind " so i wanted to devote one more thread to it in discussing how to recognize phobia's in witnesses or cult members and some methods hassan mentions to assist cult members.. on pg.
146 hassan states, " a cult phobia is a man-made mental illness that is an integral part of destructive influence.
a phobia is a persistent, irrational fear.
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Good topic, as JWs there were a lot of different fears instilled in us from a very young age. As a kid when I lost a tooth I would always be afraid that I would accidentally drink some of my own blood.LOL As I grew up I was always afraid that someone in the hall would find out what kind of music I liked, so I always hid that from everyone. Sometimes I would be afraid that a JW would overhear me in a conversation that was not "politically neutral". Such stupid nonsense, as a JW the worst thing you can do is be a normal human being.
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David H. Splane: The “Slave” Is Not 1900 Years Old (Matt. 24:45)
by ToesUp indavid splane video.
morning worship.
david splane attempts to explain why the "slave" is not 1900 years old.. warning...video may cause drowsiness!.
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I agree the slave is not 1900 years old. In fact it is just a parable, an illustration to personally apply to your life. Like the parable of the talents and the virgins, it was to show how Christ's followers were to await his coming presence.
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A Womans Role In The bOrg
by pale.emperor ini just read a thread somewhere on here that someone has been accepted to bethel service along with his wife.
his wife has, of course, been assigned to work in the laundry room.
which compels me to write this little post.. now, i dont consider myself a "feminist" as such, but i definitely believe in equality.
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I think the org would like to see all the women married, taking care of the home, and of course pioneering. -
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Recent mistakes of the Governing Body contributing to the decline of JWs
by slimboyfat inthey have made so many strategical mistakes it's hard to keep track.
some changes within the last decade or so that are contributing to declining numbers of jws:.
1. elimination of book study groups, the most informal, enjoyable and sociable of the jw meetings, contributed to loss of sense of community among jws.. 2. policy of consolidating kingdom halls.
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Their first and biggest mistake was declaring that the GB is the FDS and demoting the anointed. Sure everyone knew that the GB didn't get input from all the anointed from around the world. Still it felt better thinking that they were just representatives of a larger group. The change seemed to be arbitrary and made out of fear. It raises all sorts of questions that aren't answered except with conjecture and speculation.