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  Why A Divine Being is Possible

  by looter in

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  now we all have heard how the universe is composed of matter and space.

  and we always here of how it had a beginning.

  but really what could have begun it?

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  To the OP, of course it is possible. Even so what would be the chances that this divine being described himself only to ancient middle eastern men? That he sent his son to sacrifice his life for some reason? That all his perfect plans where foiled by two people eating an apple? If a God exists it is reasonable to say that it is not the God described in the Bible or any other "holy" book.
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  The Governing Body - your thoughts?

  by pale.emperor in

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  im no medical professional, but i have my own opinions of the gb members.

  i'd be interested to get yours.. no jokes please, im gonna be 100% serious and would like you to be too.. anthony morris iii - narcissist, controlling, possibly psychopath.

  knows full well it's all bullshit but loves the power.. stephen lett - mentally ill, fantasist, liar who genuinely believes the lies he tells.. samuel hird - deluded, likely actually believes he actually is anointed by god.

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  Anthony Morris III - narcissist, controlling, possibly psychopath. Knows full well it's all bullshit but loves the power.

  I would add that he firmly believes it's the best way of life and that image is everything when it comes to the org. Would love to return to some sort of 1950's "leave it to beaver" utopia.

  Stephen Lett - mentally ill, fantasist, liar who genuinely believes the lies he tells.

  Not sure on this one, it could be that he believes that he has such a unique style of speaking that people will believe anything he says. Probably also believes rank and file don't need all the facts because it would discourage them.

  Samuel Herd - deluded, likely actually believes he actually is anointed by God

  I think he is mentally awake, the only reason I say that is because I saw him at an assembly once delivering a talk and his demeanor was quite strange. It was like the words were coming out but his body language was very uncomfortable. Gave me the impression that he doesn't believe any of it.

  Gerrit Lösch - deluded and likely a liar who knows he's a fraud.

  Knows most of it is BS but believes in the basics from the bible, the rest really isn't important to him.

  Geoffrey Jackson - deluded, likely actually believes he actually is anointed by God

  Just happy to be there, treats the position like a job, wants to make the org appeal to people

  Mark Sanderson - liar, narcissist with an inferiority complex

  Has a need to impress others and have them like him, loves to tell stories of false humility.

  David Splane - deluded, likely actually believes he actually is anointed by God

  Thinks he is an actual bible scholar, takes the lead on bible prophecies, he may not actually believe it but thinks he is gifted at making all the pieces fit together.
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  Are the Jehovah's Witnesses really false prophets, perhaps being mentally manipulated by the Watchtower Corporation ? ?

  by Finkelstein in

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  there is a lot of public scrutiny going on these days about the jw religion particularly on the inter - net.

  one of the posed questions which gets debated and discussed quite often, are the jws false prophets instigated to preach a tainted commercialized gospel under the direction of the executive leaders of the watchtower corporation ?

  these focused men who are responsible for creating the core doctrines of this organization.

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  For well over a century this organization has been proclaiming that mankind is living in the last days of this system of things and that Christ has taken position on his heavenly throne 1874 , 1914 since these dates mankind is supposed be living in the last days of this old system of things as written in the bible.
  

  The question that could be presented were these set doctrines really devised to enhance the proliferation of the WTS own printed works, but not necessarily backed by bible scripture or in fact going against bible scripture pertaining to false prophesying ?

  I think that Russel may have been sincere in his belief in these end time prophecies. JWs weren't the first group to become fascinated by dates and Russel was influenced by other adventist groups. Of course Russel was also a businessman and invested his life savings into religious publishing. Being bold and going against the accepted theology seemed to be his selling point. I think as time has gone by the leaders have become less sincere although they still hold onto some dates like 607 and 1914. They know that these were false and mistakes but JWs have built their theology around them so they hold onto them. 1925 and 1975 were probably used to motivate growth in the org, the leaders knowing full well that there was nothing special about those dates.
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  The End of False Religion Is Near! HAHAHA

  by tootired2care in

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  memories!

  i remember a few years back being involved in the campaign work, and having the distinctly awkward experience of having to hand the householders this piece of sh1t tract "the end of false religion is near!"..

  i recall the discomfort i had trying to get into a conversation about this nonsense.

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  My friend says all witnesses are desperately trying to find a bible study or just someone to listen to them. I would think they dont go door to door in this crazy heat spending their own money on the preaching work because they hate people and want to see them die. just my 2 cents.

  Most are doing it out of fear, obligation and guilt. In short they have been coerced by the group into wasting time out in service. If the GB said that door to door was no longer required and that it was up to each publisher to decide how to spread the word, field service would quickly die out. Even if they just stopped requesting time slips field service hours would drastically plummet.

  
  
  
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  If you are still in the organization, do you enjoy the meetings ?

  by Iamallcool in

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  rate it from 1 to 10. thanks!

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  The new CLAM meeting is so boring! Everything is scripted. One thing I don't understand is that the way it is setup now there really are no opportunities for young brothers to develop their own talks. Then you have these videos that they keep showing for teenagers and kids but the rest of the hall is sitting there like "When is this over."
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  only christianity can turn people into the most arrogant people

  by never a jw in

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  so it is 7:30 am here in california and my dog needs to go out.

  so i take her out and while i wait for her to be finished my jw neighbor is walking on the sidewalk across the street and quite unexpectedly decides to cross the street towards me.

  she has her jw bag and magazines in her hands.

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  Not true, Islam does a good job of that too I'm sure. LOL I believe that Christianity has done a really good job convincing their adherents that people who question them have some ulterior motives. With JWs it is always assumed that apostates want to go off and live a sinful life or they are too lazy for the preaching work. It could never be that they just don't believe it anymore and can't live a lie. The truth is they don't really care if you have doubts or disagree on certain things as long as you support them.
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  Signs That Armageddon is "Any Day Now"

  by Nevuela in

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  my "anointed" roommate told me a good one today.

  as we were discussing psychotropic medications, she brought up a friend of hers who was recently forced off of "benzodiazepine" (there is no one drug by this name; rather, it is a specific classification of drug).

  she claimed that many people are being forced off of the medication(s) due to "concerns over side effects," and that her friend is suffering from withdrawal on top of whatever symptoms the drug was previously helping to control (she didn't elaborate and i didn't feel comfortable asking, sorry).. my roommate then went on record to say (i'm paraphrasing here) "this is why armageddon has to happen very soon, because satan is using this system to make all these people suffer psychologically to drive them into the streets and go crazy.

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  The rise of ISIS and Donald Trump getting elected will certainly cause the GT to begin shortly or so I have heard.
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  Convention Videos: Someone messed up royally

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  when i first saw the video, i was like, "wait... is that her... panties showing through the dress"?and it seems like it is so.turns out that if you look at the middle right of the video, there are some letters.

  it reads, "footage provided by pond5".if someone wants to purchase that video to confirm, you can purchase it here:http://depositphotos.com/63621499/stock-video-violinist-girl-walking-through-a.htmli think that this was a royal mess up because i doubt they would put footage of a sister in a skimpy, revealing dress.doesn't the gb approve this?this will probably go down as another of the "subliminal images"...if there are thongs in paradise... might not be so bad after all!.

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  In paradise men will be perfect, meaning we won't be the same horny bastards that we are now. Thus women will be able to relax and wear some slightly see through clothing without worrying about corrupting our imperfect minds with sexual fantasies. LOL
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  Hidden message in JW bunker video?

  by Dunedain in

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  so, i was speaking with a relative recently, who is "in" the borg, but is completely aware of the terrible hypocrisy from the gb down.

  he is not in the box, and its great to be able to have a realistic, and logical discussion about the current state of the org.. we started discussing, specifically, about that bunker video that was released in december.

  how it is being played at all the conventions.

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  I also thought it was strange how the bunker series ended without showing what happened to the brothers and sisters after they were found. I think the purpose of that was to leave it up to the imaginations of the audience. Some surely imagined them going to prison like poor Sergei from the earlier video, some probably even imagined them making the ultimate sacrifice, still others could imagine that in that next moment God intervenes and brings their salvation. Whatever the imagined outcome is the point remains the same: to be brought into the paradise you'll have to be loyal to the org and stay close to your congregation. The whole thing is fear based behavior modification, it has nothing to do with bible prophecy at all.
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  Convention

  by Gorbatchov in

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  gorby is as you know a long time fader.. visited the convention this weekend.. and concluded that samuel herds talk about hope was not so bad at all, it was well balanced.

  made some good points.. knowing both sides of the medallion, have to admit he was humble with a focus on hope.. the saturday drama impressed me.

  of course, there is a lot to say about the organization, this professional produced movie in a "true story" scenario, gave me the insight that hope is important for suffering people.

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  The Saturday drama impressed me. Of course, there is a lot to say about the organization, this professional produced movie in a "true story" scenario, gave me the insight that hope is important for suffering people. Hope is better than no hope.
  I know that the movie was made to create this effect on people.
  It's not a bad thought, that hope is better than no hope, and this idea is still between my ears.

  Hope isn't the problem, even false hope can be a comfort for a grieving person. The problem is that WT inserts itself into the equation so that the person's hope is based entirely around serving the WT and it's interest. Who wouldn't want to see their dead relatives again? Unlike other religions though JWs teach that only loyal JWs will be able to entertain that idea.

  Taken on it's own the drama didn't have a bad message but in the context of the rest of the convention it was clearly toxic and manipulative.