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  The con is completed - comments from the US branch's LDC chief

  by sir82 in

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  recently attended a special assembly day.. guest speaker was thomas chicky, a member of the us branch committee and the head of the us ldc (which has replaced the rbcs).. the last talk of the day is scheduled for an hour.

  it was the usual boring mumbo-jumbo.

  he appeared to have blasted through his hour-long outline in just about 45 minutes, so he "treated" us to informal comments on recent developments.. he commented on the new wt complex in fishkill ny.. then he dropped the bomb (well, to anyone with ears and at least 2 functioning synapses).. the following is not a word for quote, but presents the gist of his comments:.

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  LOL JWs will pretend that they never said their was a huge need for Kingdom Halls in the US, the narrative will be rewritten through repetition. The resolution for the KH building will just become a resolution for the "world wide work", in perpetuity.
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  JW Policy Regarding "Marking" From The Nov 2016 WT

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jws will deny that local needs parts are often just a way to mark those in the congregation who are deemed to be "bad association" or who don't fall in line with the elders viewpoints.

  now, for the first time in a long time the wt discusses their marking policy and how it works in the nov study wt:.

  recall paul’s counsel regarding disorderly ones in the congregation.

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  JWs will deny that local needs parts are often just a way to mark those in the congregation who are deemed to be "bad association" or who don't fall in line with the Elders viewpoints. Now, for the first time in a long time the WT discusses their marking policy and how it works in the Nov study WT:

  Recall Paul’s counsel regarding disorderly ones in the congregation. Some individuals were ‘not working at all but were meddling with what did not concern them.’ They were evidently admonished by the elders but persisted in disregarding the counsel. How was the congregation to deal with such a person? Paul directed: “Keep this one marked and stop associating with him.” That counsel was balanced with the caution not to treat such a person as an enemy. (2 Thess. 3:11-15) Today, elders may give a warning talk about someone’s persisting in a course that reflects badly on the congregation, such as dating an unbeliever. (1 Cor. 7:39) How do you react when the elders find it necessary to give such a talk? If you are aware of the situation described in the talk, will you take care to avoid socializing with such an individual? Your loving concern and firm stand may move the person to abandon a disorderly course. [1]
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  How does an elder become an elder ?

  by Drwho in

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  i was never a jw , so have millions of questions .

  please, how does an elder become an elder and how much trust does or should a jw put in an elder .?

  simon.

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  Steps to being an Elder:

  1. Go out in service every Saturday morning, work with some Elders let them give you WT advice
  2. Comment at the meetings (helps if it is something that looks like you did extra research)
  3. Volunteer for things no one else wants to do (assembly clean up, magazine counter, picking up literature, accounts)
  4. Buddy up to the circuit overseer
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  Can Trump appoint his sons to his Cabinet?

  by blondie in

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  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-cabinet_us_5824c2b2e4b05cf6a6435663.

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  I think it's more likely that his sons would run his real estate business
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  Suspicious Attitude Toward Married Brothers...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is kind of different but i just wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this.

  it seems that younger married brothers are viewed with a certain level of suspicion in the congregation.

  it's like the elders can be friendly with everyone in the hall including younger sisters.

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  Why limit it to married and not single brothers? Why only brothers? I've seen this flirt accusation thrown around to people of all sorts.

  Nobody actually accuses you, they just give you bad looks and talk behind your back

  
  
  
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  Suspicious Attitude Toward Married Brothers...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is kind of different but i just wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this.

  it seems that younger married brothers are viewed with a certain level of suspicion in the congregation.

  it's like the elders can be friendly with everyone in the hall including younger sisters.

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  This is kind of different but I just wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this. It seems that younger married brothers are viewed with a certain level of suspicion in the congregation. It's like the Elders can be friendly with everyone in the hall including younger sisters. Young single brothers can also talk to everyone as they are single. However, if a youngish married brother talks with a single sister even in passing he is viewed as though he is a flirt or a "player". Kind of ridiculous that you have to specifically avoid talking to certain people at the hall but that is how it is.
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  Did anyone else go to this weeks midweek meeting?

  by NikL in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the congregation bible study, the book addressed how "truth" is progressive.... 18 just as jehovah progressively revealed truths about the kingdom in the period leading up to 1914, he continues to do so during the time of the end.

  as chapters 4 and 5 of this book will show, over the past 100 years, god’s people have had to adjust their understanding on a number of occasions.

  does that fact mean that they do not have jehovah’s backing?

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  “It seems to be a safe rule to follow, that prophecy can not be understood by us until it is fulfilled or in the course of fulfillment.” Now that we are deep into the time of the end, many Kingdom prophecies have been and are being fulfilled. Because God’s people are humble and willing to be corrected, Jehovah has allowed our understanding of his purpose to become more complete. True knowledge has become abundant!

  I guess I wasted 5 years of my life studying "The Revelation" book and "Daniel's Prophecy", thanks for admitting it was all BS.

  
  
  
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  The Debate Is Over...

  by JW_Rogue in

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  2. experiences

  for years theologians and historians have researched who the historical person known as jesus was and how much of the biblical account could be verified.

  countless books have been written going into great detail.

  this has been a controversial subject with some even claiming that jesus never existed.

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  For years theologians and historians have researched who the historical person known as Jesus was and how much of the biblical account could be verified. Countless books have been written going into great detail. This has been a controversial subject with some even claiming that Jesus never existed. Now all that has been settled though, by a four page article in the latest Awake! magazine. Using about ten quotes, bullet points and some attractive illustrations, it is proven once and for all that Jesus did exist. They even have room to explain his teachings and what his kingdom will do for mankind.
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  New Video Series On Courtship May Open Some Eyes

  by JW_Rogue in

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  2. experiences

  so the wife was watching the latest installment of jw broadcasting and near the end there was a new segment on dating and courtship.

  it starts at about the 39 minute mark:.

  https://youtu.be/vuir-azsdm0?t=38m52s.

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  So the wife was watching the latest installment of JW Broadcasting and near the end there was a new segment on dating and courtship. It starts at about the 39 minute mark:

  https://youtu.be/vuIr-AZSdM0?t=38m52s
  

  It starts with a young sister maybe 25-30 who still seems to be living at home. Not just any home though, the type of home 90% of people on Earth cannot afford. Anyway so she meets a young Brother and they do all sorts of JW approved activities together: meetings, cart witnessing, group dates and talking on phone (no sexting) LOL. Everything is going great but then she starts noticing some troubling things about this Brother. Instead of eating dinner with the family he would rather watch a sporting event, the horror! Plus, he wants to foolishly spend money on his car instead of pioneering! Which shows he is materialistic, nevermind that her family appears to have a mansion, they are a good spiritual family. LOL The whole thing was ridiculous and will likely be ignored by anyone actually looking for a real relationship.
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  Easier to be a JW now?

  by Xanthippe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  reading konceptual's account of talking to cart 'witnesses' and it reminded me that when we left in '89 we thought the religion would do one of two things.

  get more hardline, consequently lose members and eventually come to an end in some way.

  or ease up on the members, fewer rules, less fs time, less meetings, just to keep them in.. all the recent apostate stuff, treatment of dfed kids and the hardline attitude to people who leave or try to fade has confused me, made me think they are harder on the r+f., but i don't think this is true.

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  To the OP: yes, in some ways they have lightened the load but they have ramped up the rhetoric so that those who don't fall in line are pushed to the side in the congregations. Only the uber-dubs are allowed in the inner circle of the congregations with the Elders and Pioneers. Also, you must remember that the cart work isn't available to every JW, you must be a pioneer or be approved by the Elders.