Twickingham and Haysbridge, yes!
Who were those people that used to picket outside Twickingham anyway? Were they ex-members, or from another religion? I was told not to even look at them, so I didn't.
pixiesticks
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Conventions/Assemblies in England
by ScottyRex indoes anyone remember haysbridge, crystal palace, twickenham, dorking from the 80's/90's.........so many memories there.
the 5p lunch vouchers, the aroma of bacon rolls and hot doughnuts at twickenham, the smell of coffee as 50,000 odd opened their thermos flasks at lunchtime.
walking around endless laps of the perimeter of the stadium at break times, watching the airplanes flying low over twickenham stadium en route to heathrow.. cinema style seats at dorking assembly hall, the baptismal pool built into the stage, flapping my hands in the water and getting told off.
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What books were contained in the septuiagant?
by ssn587 indon't know if i spelled that correctly, but am wondering just what books were contained in it.
and if memory, or lack there of, serves me wasn't there a hebrew and a greek one???
any help given will be greatly appreciated and thanks in advance..
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pixiesticks
Such an interesting post! *book marking*
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"your just happier now because you don't have to be good any more!"
by highdose insorry about the false start.. .
this above phrase was recently said to me by a dub, when i told them that i didn't attend any more and that i felt much better for it.
" i asked " did i have so much agony with low self esteam, self hatred and no confidence while in a religon that is supposed to have gods blessing, and yet when i leave it all those problems dissapear?".
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I'm happier now because I don't affectively have a gun held at my head being told that if I don't do good I'm going to get it! I love having the freedom to be and do good on my own, without any threats of death or bribes or everlasting life.
So who's really 'good' between us and Witnesses? Us, who are doing good purely because we know we should, or Witnesses, who do good to recieve a reward (or avoid a punishment)?
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The Book of Revelation
by frankiespeakin inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-df4umwyao&feature=channel.
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Very interesting! Thanks!
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Where is the WTS last reference to "United Nations?"
by Gayle incould you do a copy and paste of it?
is the wts talkinglately about the united nations much?.
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pixiesticks
Uhh... I have the latest mention on my 2008 Watchtower CD (I really need the new one! >__< ) as 15th December '08. Nothing important though. Just a brief mention in an article about Witnesses in Korea.
There doesn't seem to be any mention that I could find in the last couple of years' Watchtowers about the UN in regard to prophecy. They mention the UN quite a bit, but only to quote them on statistics and the like (e.g.: "According to a United Nations source, about five million children die from the effects of hunger each year.").
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If I Had Intelligently Designed Man...
by VoidEater in...i'd leave out stuff that serves no purpose - like the appendix and coccyx.. ...i'd make the testicles internal so all those baseballs in the groin didn't hurt so much.. ...i'd add a third hand and eyes in the back of the head.. .
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WTS Internet is bad - quotes in print from the publications
by besty inthought it would be a useful exercise to create a thread with a list of as many as possible official 'in print' quotes about avoiding the internet.. not 'well a co said at our assembly last week we shouldn't be on facebook'.
this will be a great resource for anti-witnessing anytime we come across jw's online - by their own words we condemn them..... any takers to get us started.....<i don't have a cd-rom otherwise i would get going.....>.
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Y'welcome. :)
Also, for a couple of quotes advising Witnesses to avoid the Internet (or parts of it) in general (which was probably more what you were after, to use as 'debate ammo' when talking to active Witnesses, right?):
Watchtower '08 - 1st Sept? You are invited to a party where alcohol and possibly drugs will be freely available.
? “Why don’t you post your profile on the Internet?” someone suggests.? A friend invites you to watch a movie that features violence or immorality.
If you are ever confronted with any of such situations, what will you do? Will you simply give in, or will you carefully consider what the “end afterward” could be? You would be wise to ask yourself: “Can a man rake together fire into his bosom and yet his very garments not be burned? Or can a man walk upon the coals and his feet themselves not be scorched?”—Proverbs 6:27, 28.
Watchtower '02 - 15th Sept
There is another type of false story that we need to be on guard against. A great many sensational tales circulate, often by means of E-mail. It is wise to be cautious about such tales, especially if we do not know the original source of the information. Even if an experience or story was sent by a reputable Christian, that individual may not have firsthand knowledge of the facts. That is why it is important to be cautious about repeating or forwarding unverified accounts. We surely would not want to repeat “godless myths,” or “false stories which violate what is holy.” (1 Timothy 4:7; New International Version) Since we also have an obligation to speak truthfully to one another, we are acting wisely by avoiding anything that would cause us even unwittingly to spread untruths.—Ephesians 4:25.
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pixiesticks
What about the account of Jehovah having 42 little children mauled to death by 2 bears for calling his prophet Elisha 'bald head':
2 KINGS2:23 "And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
2:24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them." -
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WTS Internet is bad - quotes in print from the publications
by besty inthought it would be a useful exercise to create a thread with a list of as many as possible official 'in print' quotes about avoiding the internet.. not 'well a co said at our assembly last week we shouldn't be on facebook'.
this will be a great resource for anti-witnessing anytime we come across jw's online - by their own words we condemn them..... any takers to get us started.....<i don't have a cd-rom otherwise i would get going.....>.
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I got 797 results by searching 'Internet' on the 2008 Watchtower Library program. I'd say roughly 90% of those entries were warnings against what the Watchtower perceives as "the dangers of the Internet" - Mostly pornography, time wasting, chat rooms, false information and apostate material.Here are a select few of those:Watchtower '04 - 15th Feb"How can we guard against being deceived by apostates? By heeding the advice from God’s Word, which says: “Keep your eye on those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them.” (Romans 16:17) We “avoid them” by steering clear of their reasonings—whether in person, in printed form, or on the Internet."Watchtower '04 - 15th Sept"Seeds of doubt can be sown by the media, through the Internet, and by modern-day apostates."Watchtower '06 - 15th Jan
"Because of listening to the Devil and not rejecting his lies, the first human pair apostatized. So, then, should we listen to apostates, read their literature, or examine their Web sites on the Internet? If we love God and the truth, we will not do so. We should not allow apostates into our homes or even greet them, for such actions would make us ‘sharers in their wicked works.’ (2 John 9-11) May we never succumb to the Devil’s wiles by abandoning the Christian “path of truth” to follow false teachers who seek to “introduce ruinous ideologies” and try to ‘exploit us with well-turned phrases.’—2 Peter 2:1-3."Watchtower '06 - 15th Sept"We ought to keep far away from all immoral influences, whether they come through music, entertainment, the Internet, or books and magazines."
Watchtower '08 - 15th Feb"...snares still claim victims among God’s people. For example, the click of a mouse at a computer in the privacy of one’s own home may be all that a curious or unwary person needs to ruin his good conscience. How sad it would be if a Christian were to be enticed by Internet pornography!"
Watchtower '08- 15th Dec
"At Psalm 101:3, we find David’s words: “I shall not set in front of my eyes any good-for-nothing thing.” There are many opportunities today to set in front of our eyes good-for-nothing things, particularly when we are alone. Access to the Internet has presented many with a challenge in this regard. It is easy to be lured into looking at suggestive, even pornographic, material. But is doing so an act of obedience to the God who inspired David to pen those words? Pornography is harmful, for it inflames wrong and greedy desires, damages the conscience, erodes marriages, and degrades everyone involved."
'GOD'S LOVE' book'08
"You can also absorb that evil spirit through objectionable literature, pornographic or apostate Internet sites, unwholesome entertainment, and highly competitive sports—really, through anyone or anything that conveys the thinking of Satan or his system."
'TEACHER' book '03
"Where do people learn a lot about violence and improper sex and spirits and ghosts?— Isn’t it from watching certain television shows and movies, playing computer and video games, going on the Internet, and reading comic books? Does doing these things bring us closer to God or closer to the Devil and his demons?"
Kingdom Ministry Sept '02
"Bear in mind that our heavenly Father has an appointed channel of communication, “the faithful and discreet slave.” That “slave” has the responsibility to determine what information is made available to the household of faith, as well as “the proper time” for it to be dispensed. This spiritual food is available only through the theocratic organization. We should always look to God’s appointed channel for reliable information, not to a network of Internet users.—Matt. 24:45."
Kingdom Ministry Jan '03
"Being surrounded by Satan’s world, we must exercise self-discipline, avoiding anything that could contaminate our mind or corrupt our heart. (Prov. 4:23; Matt. 5:29, 30) Christians are admonished that they “cannot be partaking of ‘the table of Jehovah’ and the table of demons.” (1 Cor. 10:21) This requires that we guard against unwholesome entertainment, bad associations, and dangers on the Internet. It also calls for our shunning apostate material." -
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nightmares after leaving
by myownlife inhello everyone, i have been reading the different topics and haven't seen this discussed..... i was raised in the 'truth' and decided when i was 19 this was not for me...but unfortunately it took years after that to finally make the clean break.
during that time and up until about a year ago, i was having strange and disturbing nightmares..it finally came to a head when i dreamed that i cussed out the elders in the congregation i had left.,..woke up in a sweat but felt great!
has anyone else experienced this?
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pixiesticks
Yup. While I was in my last few years still totally believing what the Witnesses taught, but having strong moral objections to it, I used to have a lot of very vivid dreams about dying in Armageddon. Usually they would involve me desperately racing to get home to tell my family that I loved them and goodbye, but I'd never get there in time. I'd feel God catch up to me, then I'd wake up.
Now I'm not a Witness anymore in my heart, but I still have to keep the pretense up for my family. I have dreams about making a massive scene at the meetings and walking out, or having massive heated, no-going-back-from arguements with my parents where I'd prove to them that everything about the Org was a lie.
Apparently my subconcious is very literal when it comes to my religon-based dreams!