Posts by LeeT

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Is The Internet The Worst Thing That Could Happen To The Organization?

by minimus in

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friends

the witnesses try to demonize the internet.

in your opinion is the internet the biggest problem for the watchtower organization?.

LeeT

The internet is not the worst thing that could happen to the org. That would be an armageddon where they find out that they've been batting on the wrong side all along and that hell really is a place of eternal torment.

Here's some rambling thoughts in no particular order.

The internet will only have an affect on recruitment and retention where it is available. Despite increasing penetration in developing/3rd world countries, access is pretty well skewed to the richer countries. As was pointed out earlier it is thse countries that the organisation primarily relies on for it's revenues.

Age too will play a role. My mother is 73 and has been a witness for 30 years. She's never used a computer and never will. As this older generation dies off they will be replaced by a younger generation more disposed to using the internet, and in so doing finding ideas and information in conflict with current teachings.

I read an Awake piece the other day about thr dangers of the internet. They focused exclusively on pornography (almost unavoidable apparently) and marital breakup. Funny how they didn't mention that it's a place full of apostate sites that might wake a witness up from their slumber.

I seem to remember years ago looking for the official jworg site. I seem to remember them having a placeholder site. This gave no information as they do now but basically said 'we've got this domain name. We are the witnesses. If you want further information contact your local Kingdom Hall or national office. By the way, anybody else claiming to be the real JW site are a bunch of apostates'. When did this change and the organisation start to use a site designed to encourage visitors?

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A picture I should have taken 25 years ago...a personal story

by JustHuman14 in

this picture was my graduation from high school.

i wasn't there to take that photo along with my classmates and teachers.. .

25 years have gone ever since...still after all those years, many times in my dreams i used to watch my self taking that final picture.

LeeT

That was an incredibly moving post. Thank you.

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bro. butts from bethel e-mail :

by lancelink in

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friends

typical jw email message forwarded to me this afternoon :.

do not tire out!.

bro.

LeeT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjio-F47IfM

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bro. butts from bethel e-mail :

by lancelink in

jw
friends

typical jw email message forwarded to me this afternoon :.

do not tire out!.

bro.

LeeT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjio-F47IfM

Ok, dowe have an embedding tutorial post

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bro. butts from bethel e-mail :

by lancelink in

jw
friends

typical jw email message forwarded to me this afternoon :.

do not tire out!.

bro.

LeeT

'Another young brother faces pressure from young ladies everyday to commit immorality'

Skip the first minute.

Sir Galahad is in pursuit of the Holy Grail. He nearly succumbs to temptation from young ladies, but is saved from temptation by his fellow questers.

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Is the Bible Really Scientifically Accurate?

by FreeAtLast1914 in

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friends

the society (and others) love to quote job 26:7 where it says that "[god] suspends the earth over nothing" and isaiah 40:22, where it speaks of "the circle of the earth".

they use these scriptures to boast about the incredible scientific accuracy of the bible, proving god had a direct hand in everything written in it.. the trouble is that elsewhere in the scriptures, opposing views are put forth explaining then-unexplainable physics and geographical notions.

one is job 26:11: "the pillars of heaven tremble.

LeeT

Wow, thankyou Lime.

Pure genius that last post.

That must have taken quite some effort, and certainly had me laughing. Well, I think you've conclusively proved what we all knew. This passage can not be intended to be taken literally and the Bible still be accurate. It was also not meant to refer just to the known countries. If it was more 'as in a deam', why do the mountaineering in the first place?

My prefered explanation is the flat Earth one. I'm pretty happy with the idea that the Jews and just about everybody else believed in a flat earth as given in my Encyclopedia Judaica.

This is one of the subjects where I've never heard the fundamentalist rationalisation of though.

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What's Your Favorite Christmas Song?

by sacolton in

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friends

mine is "silent night".

never get tired of listening to that one..

LeeT

Bobby Darin - Poor Little Jesus

I quite like the Odetta version too.

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Enough with the favorite songs

by JeffT in

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friends

what are the ones that sound like fingernails on the blackboard, the ones that make you want to pull the gun out from under the seat and shoot the radio in your car?.

a few of mine:.

spirit in the sky.

LeeT

Oh, I nearly forgot. Widely thought to be the worst album ever.

Lou Reed - Metal Machine Music (it's all equally as bad as the rest, except the very end).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr0KkzbbqPI

I'll suss out embedding You Tubes some day.

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Susan Boyle's new CD

by littlerockguy in

did any of you guys buy it?

i downloaded it from amazon since i didn't see it in any of the stores when i have been out.

it is quite good and well worth $10 and i find myself listening to it more than i thought i would.

LeeT

I'm aware of no witness connection.

I'll happily conceed that she's better than just about anything else I've heard that has been spawned by reality TV star maker shows in recent years. I also think a frumpy lady of a certain age is a good thing to have in a business where appearance and image counts more than talent.

My main criticism lies in the Cowell star factory aspect. All these songs about overcoming adversity seem like too thumping a metaphor.

I'm not having a go at 'granny' music, I'm nearly old enough myself, though I'm the wrong sex. This is where a lot of her market lies though. A gay friend tells me she has quite a gay following too.

Violia, I think you have it when you say that 'Life has more than leveled the playing field for Susan'. She is certainly deserving of a measure of success, but not as much as it seems she may receive. I'm just in favour of a level playing field. Knowing this thread will produce glowing praise I'm just trying to restore balance rather than be controversial. There's a goodly number of people with talent that remain virtually unknown.

Gregor, my tastes are amazingly varied so long as you exclude opera, throat music, free jazz, music concrete and most post 80's forms of dance music. I've just done a quick check and I have 56,339 tracks on my PC. I'm sure we could find some points of common appreciation.

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Is the Bible Really Scientifically Accurate?

by FreeAtLast1914 in

jw
friends

the society (and others) love to quote job 26:7 where it says that "[god] suspends the earth over nothing" and isaiah 40:22, where it speaks of "the circle of the earth".

they use these scriptures to boast about the incredible scientific accuracy of the bible, proving god had a direct hand in everything written in it.. the trouble is that elsewhere in the scriptures, opposing views are put forth explaining then-unexplainable physics and geographical notions.

one is job 26:11: "the pillars of heaven tremble.

LeeT

Going back to somewhere near the start of the thread in discussing the shape of the Earth, the point was made that in Matthew's account of the temptation the Devil took Jesus up tp the top of a mountain where every nation of the earth could be seen.

I'd be interested to see both Perry's and the JW answer to this one. Is this to be taken figuratively in some way? Was it more like a vision of all the nations brought on by a lack of oxygen at high altitude and all the strain of being in the wilderness or something?