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  Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters

  by Lobsto in

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  a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.

  two days ago, i received a response from them.

  i think this is gonna be the first of many.

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  This was referenced in the response letter.
  Chronological List of Texts From the First Millenium B.C. Babylonia, by Janos Everling
  
  I've dug up the .pdf and it's brilliant.
  http://okor.btk.pte.hu/sites/okor.btk.pte.hu/files/files/SEAL/sea-l_3_jeverling_materials_vol1.pdf
  Scroll to Page 24 where the Neo-Babylonian texts start. Note the sheer quantity of texts in each year of the conventional secular chronology. Where are all the texts from the 20 years the Society incorporates into its chronology? They're not there, there are none, these years don't exist.
  
  
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  1986--2019-Examining The Scriptures Daily!

  by Atlantis in

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  all are bookmarked and searchable.. .. 1986--1990. https://we.tl/t-sqgt9exh5k .

  .. 1991--2000. https://we.tl/t-qzbfbiacq8.

  .. 2001--2010. https://we.tl/t-yaw2lety01.

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  Thanks.
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  The pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton according to Gérard Gertoux

  by Narkissos in

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  2. friends

  some time ago i stumbled across a book by french author gerard gertoux, about the pronunciation of the tetragrammaton.

  the book was also published in english (cf.

  the author's site at http://gertoux.online.fr/divinename/) .

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  I found this thread after becoming suspicious about this paper where Gertoux supports a 475 BCE date for the ascension of Artaxerxes in 475 BCE (the JW date) rather than the more conventional 465 BCE.

  https://www.academia.edu/2421036/Dating_the_reigns_of_Xerxes_and_Artaxerxes
  

  My hunch was that he is a JW and this thread pretty much confirms it.
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  Incomplete List of Reasons or Ways to Die in the Bible

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  i´ve come up with a partial list (i am only in 1 kings) of the many reasons and ways to die in the bible.maybe, when i am in revelation, i am going to share the full list.

  how many do you think i´ll end up having??

  number.

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  It might be worth cross checking with Steve Wells "Drunk with Blood" which catalogues all the deaths meted out or sanctioned by Jehovah, along with the 10 performed by Satan.
  

  Drunk With Blood Gods Killings In The Bible - Steve Wells.pdf
  
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  Confronting Parents About 607 vs 587

  by breezy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just thought i would update you guys since my 1st post last week.i haven't been to the meeting for about 2 weeks now, and maybe have like 1 or 2 hours of service combined within the past 2-3 months.

  i obviously get the love bombing from relatives when they don't see you at the hall for a while.

  " we missed you at the meeting last week.

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  LeeT

  Well I'm 3 years late to this party but thought I'd add this as the simplest method I've found for arriving at 587 BCE using only WT literature.

  Zechariah 1:1 NWT

  "In the eighth month in the second year of Da·riʹus, the word of Jehovah came to the prophet Zech·a·riʹah son of Ber·e·chiʹah son of Idʹdo, saying: ..."

  it-2 p. 1225 Zechariah, Book of
  

  "Since it was in the “eighth month in the second year of Darius” (October/November 520 B.C.E.) that “the word of Jehovah occurred to Zechariah” (1:1), the book covers a period of at least two years."

  
  

  Zech 1:7,12 NWT

  "7 On the 24th day of the 11th month, that is, the month of She'bat, in the second year of Da·ri'us, the word of Jehovah came to the prophet Zech·a·ri'ah son of Ber·e·chi'ah son of Id'do, ... 12 So the angel of Jehovah said: “O Jehovah of armies, how long will you withhold your mercy from Jerusalem and the cities of Judah, with whom you have been indignant these 70 years?"

  If the “eighth month in the second year of Darius” is (October/November 520 B.C.E.), the "11th month, that is, the month of She'bat, in the second year of Da·ri'us" is 3 months later in Jan/Feb 519 BCE.
  

  At that point Jehovah had been "indignant these 70 years" with "the cities of Judah." So Jehovah became indignant in around Jan/Feb 589 BCE, just when secular chronology places the start of siege of Jerusalem.

  it-1 p. 415 Captivity
  

  "The final capture of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar was completed in 607 B.C.E., after an 18-month siege. (2Ki 25:1-4)."

  So if the siege started in Jan/Feb 589 BCE and lasted 18 months, it ended in July/Aug 587.
  

  Note that this places the start of 70 years at the beginning of the siege and ends it when God tells Zechariah : ‘“I will return to Jerusalem with mercy, and my own house will be built in her,” (Zech 1:16).
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  A non-Witnes who accepts 607 BC?

  by careful in

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  2. bible

  an eyebrow raiser to be sure.

  i can understand the clergyman being so baptist that he'd still use the name jehovah since it was popular in english and german churches for a long time during and after the reformation, but 607?.

  see ¶ 6 under the heading "the historicity of the book of daniel".

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  There are also Jews who take Seder Olem seriously and so think the temple was destroyed in 422 BCE
  
  https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2836156/jewish/The-Discrepancy-Between-the-Rabbinic-and-Secular-Dates.htm
  
  Facts can be just inconvenient truths that need suppressing in case they get in the way of real faith.
  
  
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  Pillowgate - John Cedars

  by CitizenofEarth in

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  is this true?

  is this really true?!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.

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  They must have been getting complaints about excessively soiled bed sheets from the Warwick laundry. Had they bothered to check they would have realised that it was all down to Brother Cook. He's just so excited to become the new Governing Body member he just can't help himself.
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  Twilight and other banned media

  by purrpurr in

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  thanks to online media of movies and books i've recently been watching the twilight series.

  issues of quality aside i enjoyed it enough.

  i mostly wanted to see what the fuss was about and have the fun of seeing a movie that was banned from the platform when it came out.

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  Is The Village banned?
  Given the parallels between the village and the borg I think it's a good film to sneak on any witness.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IretteYxt2c
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  Please, tell me.

  by andrewlya in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi, i am a christian and i would like to know jehovas witness's belief in god and whether you believe jesus is god.

  please, any statements back up with biblical verses,thank you and god bless, in jesus's name.. i am new on here, so please be patient with me :).

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  Whilst you're looking at JW beliefs on the trinity you might also like to compare with Unitarianism. This link looks to provide a fairly neutral non doctrinaire stance.
  http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/trinity/unitarianism.html
  
  
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  Brother who works on JW Broadcasting gave a 20 minute talk, said something big is coming next month.

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  via /r/exjw.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc7vhu8l88k.

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  The announcement is that the Governing Body have all been raptured to their heavenly calling. From now on JW Broadcasts will be presented by the Governing Body body double stand-ins (they're probably better actors anyway) whilst the rest of Bethel scramble round for new light to explain this unexpected turn of events.