the topic of Gog has garnered much interest in Jewish, Christian and Muslim discussions. - Coldsteel
Meanwhile in other news, Bilbo Baggins will be swept into a quest to reclaim the lost Dwarf Kingdom of Erebor from the fearsome dragon Smaug.
Posts by cofty
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18Who is Gog/Magog?
by Cold Steel inezekiel spends two chapters (38-39) describing a war that either will never take place, or which has yet to take place.
according to the prophecy, the warlord gog, of magog, will 1) sweep down on israel, covering the land like a cloud.
this will happen in 2) the latter years when israel will 3) be a people “gathered out of many nations” and peoples.
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Question.
by phats inhi, is there a scripture saying it's okay to beat your wife with a stick no thicker than a mans thumb or is this a myth?
i remember something & have done some serching but need help.
phats.
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Cofty I thought it was the opposite. I thought the Quouran stated it was *not* ok to beat your wife, even with a feather. Maybe Jwdaughter May be able to help with this. - Dio
Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand. - An Nisa 4:34
I have invited JW Daughter to disavow this verse numerous times. So far she has declined to do so. Muhammed was a pedophile and a wife beater.
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No updated Watctower's articles on Evolution
by opusdei1972 inas far as i know, the "creation" book is out of print ?, am i right?.
well, i was searching for new watchtower articles trying to debunk, for instance, human evolution.
so, i did my homework, for the first time, so as to read past and updated papers and books on human evolution.
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they could even accept human evolution too, as the Catholic Church does. I am not saying they will necessarily, but it's possible - SBF
No they couldn't. The ransom is the cornerstone doctrine of the cult and it depends on the lie that every human descended from a literal Adam.
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No updated Watctower's articles on Evolution
by opusdei1972 inas far as i know, the "creation" book is out of print ?, am i right?.
well, i was searching for new watchtower articles trying to debunk, for instance, human evolution.
so, i did my homework, for the first time, so as to read past and updated papers and books on human evolution.
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I just lack knowledge of macro evolution at the minute as I've never read up on that as I've only read the society's publications on it - Midnight
If you look at the end of the OP of the following thread there are links to the other 37 threads in the series. I need to get back to this.
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Question.
by phats inhi, is there a scripture saying it's okay to beat your wife with a stick no thicker than a mans thumb or is this a myth?
i remember something & have done some serching but need help.
phats.
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cofty
The Quran gives men permission to beat their wives.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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my objection is to his ignorant and arrogant assersion that anyone can prove or disprove the existence of God - Loopy Loo
It is neither ignorant nor arrogant to claim that the god of christian theism - the god and father of Jesus does not exist.
That much can be proven beyond all reasonable doubt. I submit that this thread is as compelling a proof as any reasonable person should require, but there is a lot more to be said about the evidence against the existence of Jesus' god. If you want to argue about the existence of some other vague concept of a higher power then I have no interest in discussing something so ambiguous. Once you make your mind up about which god you wish to defend let me know. I suspect it is the god of Jesus but you just lack the courage of your convictions to stick to the topic, and would prefer to boast about your IQ.
I don't think I have ever engaged in, or observed, a conversation with a christian about the existence of god where the theist didn't eventually resort to a position of deism.
I was alluding to Pascal's wager
Pascal's wager is pathetic. It relies on the false premise that the non-existence of god cannot be proven and the lie that organising your life around a delusion is not too high a price to pay.
Why would a just god reward somebody for pretending to believe something? Is he impressed by hypocrisy? Why would he punish genuine incredulity?
Pascal's Wager is a call to moral and intellectual cowardice.
I apologize Crofty for my ad hominum cracks - i suspect you have a BPD and can't help yourself ... you fuckwit Cofty ... my IQ is 140 yours I suspect is no greater than your shoe size ... I try not to argue with morons ...
So you should. So far you have avoided addressing the topic.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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death is not the end of the story unlesss your an atheist - Loopy Loo
That's not very logical for somebody with an IQ of 140. The spelling and grammar are also appalling - "unless you're an atheist".
Either death is the end or it isn't. What an individual believes about that has no bearing on reality.
So far there there is not a shred of evidence that death is not the final end of all conscious existence.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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cofty
Christians really are no different from JWs or any other cult.
They take pride in a hypocritical display of piety, but when you challenge their cherished beliefs with reason and facts and logic that they can't refute, they respond with vitriol.
This thread is irrefutable proof that the god of christian theism, the god of Jesus, does not exist. Countless possible refutations have been dealt with and exposed as vacuous.
You claim to have a higher than average IQ but your best response is to accuse me of being mentally ill and then to follow that up with an insult unworthy of a child.
Loopy Loo I used to believe in the god of Jesus with a passion. I understand why you are lashing out. The consequences of your beliefs being a delusion have no bearing on their veracity.
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Why do JW's never pray for the Spirit of Jesus?
by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu ini am new on this forum.
i have been associating with the jw's for three years, and was about to be baptised soon (next month).
however, i discovered on time that it is not right to do.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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250000 died everyone dies they just died sooner rather than later - Loopy Loo
I assume you just wanted to claim the prize for the dumbest and most callous response in this thread. Well too bad there are are a few attempts to excuse god that are even more facile than that.
The more christian theists talk the more they expose how ugly their beliefs really are.
Exposed without mercy That says a lot about your nature Crofty I for one would not want nor value your respect i suspect you have a BPD and can't help yourself
I have not got a clue what you just said.
The challenge of this thread remains unanswered but thanks for playing.